Ask HN: Have you ever had a changed-your-life moment?

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Something that happened over a small span of time that totally changed the trajectory of your life?

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Applied to FANG for an internship and 5 years later I'm still there.

I'd call it life-changing as I can FIRE around 40 now (current trajectory). Planning to care for my siblings however, so realistically it's more like 45-50.

it's surprising to me how many people I know that have been at FAAMG for 15+ yrs and are still there.
Life style creep or just like the work?
surviving a mass shooting

The conversation surrounding such events and lack of political or social will to change left me jaded with Americana, ultimately I left the country and decided to contribute to a more sane society.

Me too. I wasn't at the October First shooting in Vegas, but I was not far away and I helped take food and stuff to first responders and hospital staff in the trauma ward after. Watching people call that a "false flag" was contemptible.
And now I live in England, where a loud report really is a car backfiring. It has its problems, but I'm not likely to get shot or go bankrupt from a hospital bill.
> The conversation surrounding such events and lack of political or social will to change left me jaded with Americana

A sad state of affairs in which a country gives more rights to firearms than a woman.

Many of them. A heart attack followed by open heart surgery on the day the coronavirus was officially declared a pandemic was one of them. Having the parent company of my online music store fail was another.

You can always find these moments in your life, but usually in retrospect.

Your question is so broad that I'm not sure that you will yield any satisfying answer.

But yes, many times. The problem is that some of the most profound and lasting changes come from trauma that requires significant content warnings or require a degree of empathy that only other survivors appear able to fully understand or display. As such, these things are hard to talk about on an immutable public forum.

Once upon a time my buddy was in the data center swapping drives, so i logged onto all the servers. 8 cabinets and like ~18 or so servers in each.

~$ base64 /dev/urandom

I don't know if that qualifies as 'changing my life' but when he told me he had to plug his ears and run away because it was so loud, it certainly made me want to turn this into a long-term career.

Could you explain further?
Probably CPU cooling getting extremely loud. Server fans are notorious for very high levels of noise unlike what you usually see in personal desktops. (At least I think so, never having actually been in a datacenter due to living in the middle of nowhere.)
Correct. When I started my first company from my bedroom I only had a normal tower computer as a server and had heard that rack server is what the professionals use, so I bought two and started them. Sounded like 2 jet engines and quickly realised I need a data Center to put these in.
When I was a little kid, I was at a department store and saw a guy doing something with a television. Or so I thought.

Me: What are you doing?

He: I am programming. What's your name?

Me: MG

He: Check this out:

    10 PRINT "MG"
    20 GOTO 10
Me: Woah!

I picked a book from a shelf about "Basic" and started to try figuring out how this worked. And never stopped. Have been looking at these "televisions" more than anything else since then.

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While I appreciate this comment is well-intentioned, can we please not turn HN into Reddit? I strongly prefer ready more pithy content.
Same thing for me watching my 5th grade teacher program a Commodore Vic-20. I was instantly hooked.
Scene playing out ca. 2013:

Store Manager: It looks like someone hacked our computer, let's call the police, they'll know what to do.

FBI: Our diligent detective work has uncovered the perp is named MG. We will lock him up for 20 years for a CFAA violation.

Store Manager: Isn't that kind of harsh? I've since called the tech support line who told me to turn it off and back on again, and that seems to have fixed it.

Corporate management: We don't support this prosecution.

Prosecutor: Our job is to work in the public interest. Microsoft has suffered because people might think their operating system isn't secure.

MG: All this stress of being persecuted by a bureaucratic meat grinder is making me awfully depressed ...

... talk about a much different type of life changing event.

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I had a religious experience decades ago. Stone cold sober. I only talk about it with my closest friends, because I don't want to be perceived as another nutter. But it keeps me up when I am feeling down, and holds out the promise of living a life on a proper path. My 0,02€, YMMV.
I know I'm not one of your closest friends, but can you elaborate on what your experience was?
You don't have to be drunk or high to have hallucinations.
Hallucinations are often not religious experiences. Most often when people feel it's religious it's connected to a deep sense of meaning. This can be accompanied to drugs and or hallucinations but doesn't have to. Often connected to feeling of perception of self dissolving, not having any seperatioe, feeling fully one or dissolving into the "outer" world
Not at all surprised this is getting downvoted. There's a decent book on this theme:

https://www.amazon.com/Hallucinations-Oliver-Sacks/dp/030794...

where the author postulates that a decent portion of society experiences hallucinations at least once in their lifetime without any "helpers" like drugs or sleep deprivation. (I don't remember the exact percentage, read that thing ages ago).

I think this is how religions get started.

This is neither here, nor there.

Not all hallucinations are religious.

And not all religious experiences are hallucinations.

In fact, when we talking about a specific kind of experience, the term hallucination has no meaning.

You're not "seeing things", you're feeling and thinking things. So there's no relevance at all to whether they're "really there".

You could have a religious experience by runinating on something that's actually, 100% there (e.g. an experience with near death from a car accident that makes you appreciate life in a religious way, or even a nice sunset).

It's not the factual accuracy of the comment that's getting downvoted, it's the disrespectful attitude, tactless delivery, and/or assumptions about the nature of a religious experience.
>it's the disrespectful attitude, tactless delivery, and/or assumptions about the nature of a religious experience.

What on earth are you reading to get this? The parent is a concise statement of fact:

You don't have to be drunk or high to have hallucinations.

How is that anything like you describe? How is it "tactless" and "disrespectful"? How does it assume anything? Try applying the most charitable view to the comments.

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I had one too!

Lasted less than five seconds but it felt like 'the hand of God' passed through me - that's the best way I can describe it.

William James described a religious experience as having four qualities: - Ineffable: the experience is incapable of being described and must be directly experienced to be understood. - Noetic: the experience is understood to be a state of knowledge through which divine truths can be learned. - Transient: the experience is of limited duration. - Passivity: the subject of the experience is passive, unable to control the arrival and departure of the experience.

...and that tracks 100% with how I experienced mine.

Same.

Yes, it was also a hallucination, as other commenters have pointed out. But if you allow yourself to be affected by ideas, or art (i.e., synthetic visual or audio experiences), shouldn't you be open to being affected by a unique positive experience generated by your own specific mental architecture? Almost definitionally, it's possible that such an experience could impart you with something more meaningful than something generated externally.

Also, to other commenters: such an experience is obviously very difficult to communicate about effectively. It was formulated by and for your own brain, and so will be hard to translate effectively to a different architecture.

Clothes dryers aren’t that popular in Europe. Getting one a year ago and having access to clean clothes faster and with less effort had a surprisingly big positive impact on me.
This seems quite anecdotal. For example, around 60% of the Dutch population has one. Belgium is around 70%. The USA/Canada is around 80%.

For me personally, I never bought one. I have a garden and the sun works quite well, it is much cheaper and a very easy environmental way to dry your clothes. (In the USA, clothes dryers are the third most consuming residential electrical energy consumers)

I went to university in 1997 to study Broadcast Engineering with every intention of going into the film industry. Some friends and I decided to make ourselves some webpages after reading about HTML in a magazine, and after a few late nights of not getting things to work I saw my first page load in Mosaic 2.0. I realised anyone in the world could access it. You can't get that feeling of connectedness from anything else. I completely changed my career goals and decided I wanted to build web stuff instead. I'm still doing it 25 years on.
Honestly my whole career has been a series of these.

Growing up no one in my family had a professional job. Most of them didn't even work. So while I knew that in theory I could get a CS degree and have a software career, it wasn't something I really felt in my bones. Even after I got the degree I did not feel confident that one of "us" could get a job like one of "them", especially when you're raised with that working class crab mentality.

Later on, it was getting my first self employed contract. I had dreamed about going solo, but always doubted I could pull off. Then it was getting my invoice paid by a director of an overseas company I had never met. Something I knew was possible but felt like utopian science fiction when I read it on HN.

So as cheesy as it sounds - my career has changed my life forever. The realisation that I didn't have to struggle to make ends meet, and that I was in the drivers seat of my own life.

> raised with that working class crab mentality

Man, I thought I was the only one that described it like this, but apparently it's so common it has its own Wikipedia page[0]. The entire fucking region I lived in was too busy acting like crabs in a bucket instead of building something better for everyone.

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_mentality

Golly, brother. I feel you all the way down to my toes. My parents just openly, declaratively resent my leaving misery behind for a rewarding and financially secure career.

Wanna hear the super effed up part? I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND their feelings! Like so many other modalities of code-switching I’ve learned, with just a little concentration I can go back and forth: having my kids do better than me is the main objective in life [VWOOP!!] the worst misfortune that can befall a parent.

When a kid (10+ years younger) at a rave told me --being a vegetarian at the time-- that I'm not "nice to animals" and not "doing enough" and if I cared to be consistent with my beliefs I should go vegan.

Also: children, DMT, studying Buddhism and a not to be named hard-core socialist music festival near Berlin.

Wow. One can never satisfy these woke little know it alls hah?
Imagine taking time out of your day to post this
Wise people appear to never be quite sure about what they say, so they rarely incur huge changes in people life, but dumb people have such a limited map of reality that everything is crystal clear and therefore they are the ones people pay attention to.

A good nutritionists would never say such nonsense but that varies on how we definite "good".

Anectotal, but after 10 years following a (protein rich, trying to bulk with mediocre results) 99% vegan diet, I started having terrible stomach problems (including all sort of bleeding and explosions).

After 2 years of suffering, doctors told me it was unexplained, most likely due to stress and that I should avoid eating fatty meats as my cholesterol was very high (despite basically not eating food). They wanted to put me on statins.

I did the opposite and switched to a carnivore diet - and my symptoms disappeared in a week.

> not to be named hard-core socialist music festival near Berlin.

Why not name it?

Keep the rest in the dark. They dont want it to be advertised, it already attracts more people than it can handle.

Try Burning Man, some say it has similar vibes minus the radical socialism.

In college I had a small freelancing business doing email marketing for real estate. I needed to use the photos from one of the real estate firm's websites that I worked with.

On a whim I setup a lunch with the freelance developer of this website.

A little nervous I showed up in a dress shirt and khakis. He showed up in ratty old white t-shirt with pit-stains, disheveled, and completely unwashed.

As we ate the expensive meal I was treating him to, I couldn't help think but the meeting was a waste of effort and money.

As we got up to leave, he mentioned a little website he made about mosquito ringtones that made $100 day and that was why he didn't care about our mutual real estate client. He just wanted to maximize his passive income.

It was that day I learned about affiliate marketing and SEO. As a finance/marketing guy it changed my life 100%. Taught myself WordPress, SEO, PPC, and everything in between.

Funny as I was dead set on becoming a ibanker.

I visited (trespassed) in an underground bomb shelter with accomodations for 11000 (eleven thousand) people. It was mothballed and parts of it were used as storage, but most of what would be needed for housing people there if war or nuclear fallout would hit was there.

Dry toilets with no privacy, toilet paper, some dry rations, mattresses, blankets, air filters, first aid kits etc. For 11k people.

It was two giant vaults, 5.5k per vault.

It changed my views on war and peace. Made me stop playing war games and watching war movies.

I wish peace would return to Europe soon. Right now, there are people who have to endure conditions worse than what I saw not very far from here.

>> Made me stop playing war games and watching war movies.

Thats really interesting reaction - probably totally opposite of mine. I honestly believe that war is one of mankind's stupidest invention and suspect that there are no heroes on any battlefield - only naive, stupid and unlucky ones that mostly use pieces of metal with high kinetic energy to pierce through flesh of others. I would never agree to take active part in it. But despite that I love war movies and war games. War theme allows for very good, emotionally charged (in oposition to kinetically charged irl) and captivating narrative that is hard to create otherwise. But nonetheless this is the only good place for war - fantasy.

War games and movies mostly focus on the soldiers. But they are a really small part of the people involved in it.

Being exposed to this faux imagery of war messes with people's perception of war. This is especially true for people from countries that have not experienced war on their own territory in centuries and only see it on TV.

Obligatory mention of the game "This War of Mine" where the protagonists are civilians. I could not bring myself to try it, I would probably lose sleep over it.

Unfortunately, being a male in a conscription country, I do not have the luxury of choosing whether to take part in it or not (well I could choose a prison sentence instead). If our neighbors get belligerent, I will be called to arms. Last time I checked, there is a seat in an armored vehicle with my name on it.

>> Being exposed to this faux imagery of war messes with people's perception of war.

That seems true on the surface but I do not really buy it. Otherwise I believe that I would meet more people enamored by serial killer life after "Dexter" aired. But jokes aside I blame patriotism (and tribalism in general) for creation of this war hero myth. I can even give real life example - I'm from Poland and the ruling party is actively promoting so called cursed soldiers (żołnierze wyklęci) as a national symbol of fight with oppressor (former communist regime). And the way thay are doing it creates a very romantic image of what it means to be a soldier.

> honestly believe that war is one of mankind's stupidest invention and suspect that there are no heroes on any battlefield - only naive, stupid and unlucky ones that mostly use pieces of metal with high kinetic energy to pierce through flesh of others.

I strongly disagree with that. There were and are plenty of heoric people who chose to put themselves in harm's way and die if necessary, in order to save other people and prevent the world from becoming a worse place. Sometimes the good and evil in war are not so clear, but there are also plenty of clear-cut situations where it's obvious that the invaders will just rape, torture and kill people until someone stops them.

My Mom was very anti-war. No toy guns in our house. (We could play war games like diplomacy and risk when older). It turns out one of her first memory was fleeing her home being bombed in WWII.
My father passing away. Not because of COVID, it happened in 2019.

Somehow it triggered my awareness and focus on taking care of myself better. It made "death" very real for me, to the degree that it had never been up to that point.

I have been able to work out a lot more regularly motivated by "how to live longer and healthier", vs. "I want to have a jacked body to attract women".

When a university buddy told me: "with VHDL you make the instructions yourself. You can make your own registers!"

He didn't need to tell me anything else. It was 2006. I am still designing chips.

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Feeling no particular drive for having children for most of my adult life, that changed when me and my partner got the very shocking news that she was pregnant last november. We were there to start the process to harvest her eggs, as she was about to undergo aggressive cancer treatment that would leave her unable to conceive children afterwards.

The pregnancy turned out to not be viable, and two weeks later the treatment started.

Seeing that heartbeat changed everything. Nothing seems to matter anymore in comparison to having kids, as a life goal.

Wait till you get them ;). Sort of joking. I know the feeling, also had that. Getting them is very different from this high, but probably even more worth it. Although you will be more tired and busy then ever before.
I just finished feeding my first baby, and I'm not sure when I'll have time for anything else again.
Oh that’s easy: never!

:-)

Yet in the end you will be more effective and get more done then ever before :).
You will never be bored again
I think learning Python changed my life.

Learning Groovy came close, but it wasn’t as popular as Python, and the Java ecosystem was still a drag.

Python actually made programming effortless and enjoyable for me.

i had a similar experience. when i started to study i did an internship at a friends company where i was programming ATMs and related software with case tools in your typical office environment. i decided then, that i hated working in an office and even though i studied computer science, i'd not work as a fulltime programmer.

until i discovered the pike programming language, and i realized that programming is actually fun, or as you say effortless and enjoyable and i realized that working in an office was not the reason why i didn't like programming but not working on meaningful projects with enjoyable tools.

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I got dumped by someone who I really thought could be the one. It taught me that the world has its own plans, irrespective of my own wants, and good times end. Sort of snapped me out of autopilot for the first time in my life.
I was traveling around north-west Australia in 2001 and hadn’t seen the news in weeks. I stopped at a cheap hotel in Broome for a couple of days as a treat and to take a warm shower after weeks of camping, switched on the TV, and saw the wall-to-wall coverage of 9/11 that had happened the day before. I didn’t understand what I was seeing and I sure didn’t understand why it had happened. I decided I should try and figure that out.

Four months later I enrolled in an undergraduate international relations program on the other side of the country in an effort to understand why these sorts of things happen. I went on to write my PhD in the field and the study and teaching of international politics became my life for probably the next 15 years.

Only possible in Broome, where there really isn't all that much to do
In 2012 I bought a book called "Getting Out: Your Guide to Leaving America".

It had a chapter on how to move to (almost) every country in the world. Nothing seemed practical, I didn't have the skills and there was a recession.

But in the end there were some interviews with people who had left, and there was a throwaway line: "I got a working holiday visa for Ireland"

I didn't even know working holiday visas existed! I figured I could move to Ireland for a year and enjoy what I could.

6 months in I wasn't having much luck finding a longer term sponsor, despite applying lots of different places.

Then I was at the pub and heard someone having a laugh about "JSON? I said JASON!" (it was funnier when we were drunk) Had a chat, got an interview, got a job, got a green card, and recently got naturalized.

I think a lot of things in life have been small serendipities like this.

I always mention looking at working holiday visas to any friends who bemoans how hard it is to leave their country. For anyone below 30, it's often a very good pathway to immigrating, getting a job and eventually a more stable visa situation.

I've also seen it combined with student visas, so one year on a student visa to learn the language (that costs more in most countries, although there are some countries with relatively cheap language courses and possibility to work for up to 20 hours a week, example Japan or France) then a working holiday visa and then finding a sponsor.

In many cases you don't even need a "working holiday visa" to go and live somewhere else.

E.g. if you have a remote job, you can just travel to a third country and work from there. Most countries just require that you get out for a few days per 3 or 6 months (which can be just visiting a nearby country, staying in a hotel, and returning) to renew your plain tourist visa.

I'd be careful with this. I've done that in the past in Malaysia, going through the border from Malaysia to Thailand every 3 months.. Eventually when I took a plan from the airport to travel somewhere else, I got questioned by immigration because of the patterns of staying 3 months and then leaving for a few days. They asked me how I could finance my stays and told me that any work I was doing while in Malaysia remotely violated my visa.

In the end, nothing happened but ymmv. I also know a few people who did the same in HK and eventually got into trouble because of that.

I do think it works well but it's not a long term plan and if you do it, you must plan with potentially being denied entry eventually.

>I do think it works well but it's not a long term plan and if you do it, you must plan with potentially being denied entry eventually.

First, absolutely, the latter can happen at some point.

Second, however, I know tons of people that did it just fine with no issue for years.

YMMV

Indeed, though I've always been a "cross my t's and dot my i's" kind of person. Keeping things above board saved me a lot of worry.

It worked out nicely; as an Irish citizen I still have the right to live and work in both the EU/EEA and the UK, which is handy.

I remember reading your post about this a few years ago, when I was first considering moving abroad!

Glad it’s going well for you. I have recently taken the plunge and moved to Estonia :)

Wonderful! I hope it's a journey full of small delights and unexpected joys.
When it comes to working holiday visas this is one of those times non-Americans[1] actually have _more_ options than Americans.

1: Western non-Americans, more specifically, unfortunately..

US citizens can avail of WH visas for Ireland, New Zealand, Australia, and (more restrictive) South Korea and Singapore.

Though some of the new digital nomad visas coming out aren't entirely dissimilar.

I live in Europe, but I would love to move to America someday; the opportunities to start something there are vastly more visible (European startup culture is nearly a contradiction in terms). Sadly, it becomes increasingly more difficult.
You probably want to do that when you are young and healthy.
I am already an immigrant, so I don’t have the full social security in the country I currently live, and yet I have to pay all taxes and social charges. If and when I won’t be able to sustain myself, they’ll just kick me out. And I have no interest in returning to my home country (Russia), for obvious reasons.
Ah, in that case it makes a lot more sense, you have much less to lose.
If you can't get the pension you pay for, you are usually entitled to a refund for your pension payments. At least that's the case in Germany.
If I move to another country, yes. I have no intention to, but I can’t get a permanent resident permit here for a multitude of reasons.
Perhaps I can lend a hand. Feel free to email me at contact@allaboutberlin.com. I'm familiar with all the challenges immigrants face in Germany.
It started with you taking action though. Lots of people wait and hang around for serendipity to find them.
Ah, just another classic example of how much the details matter when parsing JSON. ;)

Very cool story. It's funny how little decisions can ripple out into huge changes to a life trajectory. I suppose the art of it all is to occasionally make a few good little decisions -- and ride the momentum when you do. Glad yours worked out!

Yes. When I figured out how to do hyper keys with Karabiner.

https://wiki.nikiv.dev/macOS/apps/karabiner

This is completely irrelevant to the topic at hand but my employer provided me a MBP yesterday. Being a Windows guy all my life, I naturally wanted to remap some keys so I looked for an app to do that. Karabiner-elements was the most recommended so I got it. I was _shocked_ to see how much space this tiny app uses [1]. I bet such an utility for Windows written in terse C/C++ would take no more than 1MB (if that). I truly hate today's "programming" using ton of frameworks built upon ton of other frameworks.

[1] https://i.imgur.com/DSSXY39.jpeg

/rant over

A friend of mine wanted to make some speaker-stands from some thick pieces of wood, in a Z shape. He didn't know what angle to cut it, so asked me (knowing that I had, some years earlier, obtained a maths A-level). The problem reduced to solving a quadratic, but I couldn't remember the formula for the solutions (-b ± something?) so spent 2-3 days trying to reconstruct the proof (this was pre-internet). Eventually I cracked it, and enjoyed the process so much that I applied to study maths at University ... He never did make those bloody speaker-stands.
Sing this to chorus of Jingle Bells and you’ll never forget it.

X equals opposite of B + or - square root… b squared minus 4 AC all Over 2 A… yay!

We learned it to the tune of "pop goes the weasel"