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I'm looking for a ruthless non-technical cofounder - American only.

7 points by seivan ↗ HN
I'm looking for a ruthless non-technical cofounder - American only. Basically, I got this idea, and now a beta. I need a ruthless douchebag MBA. (Consider the word douchebag as payback for people calling us "techies") Jokes aside. I need you to pitch stuff to retailers, cafés, restaurants and etc. And at the some time do some actual work on your end. I'm also only looking for people in the US because of https://stripe.com/ - needless to say I'd avoid using Paypal if I can.

I could use In-App purchases, but not ready to give up a 30% cut when we won't be so profitable at the start. Though we are not losing any money (unless paying Apple the 30%) Also funding is not necessary.

I got the backend done and the iOS client.

Gimme a ping. Good comment!

We need vendors who want to sell their items on our platform. And then accept payment digitally. Pretty much the most I feel like saying now. It's not that I am fearful and my billion dollar idea (hah!) is such a secret that barely I know about it. It's just that I'd like to say more to people who are sick of their jobs as consultant (moi) and want to move into a more product based work. A startup.

Ps. Not looking for product people, designers that only do photo shop or product people with photoshop skills. Also this post is actually serious, I am looking for a US based sales person so I can use Stripe in my app. And you can do your part... part-time for now. Ds

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kls
I must say this should be an interesting thread if it takes off, I can't say that we have seen many of these reverse I need a partner threads, but many times I have thought well I really don't want to sell and thought about doing the exact same thing, build the product and then try to find a sales / business development guy to move it. If you find one please post on how it works out, I don't think you and I are the only ones that have had this idea, so it would be interesting to hear how it works out.
seivan
Will do. Although I'm general against "Product People" and Designers - who very much like 13 year old female Justin Bieber fans only know Photoshop and not Cocoa, CSS or, Javascript (notice the "or"'s and not "and"'s - lotta boxes to pick a tick on). To be honest I'm against non-technical people unless they convince me otherwise.

That being said, I believe the actual sales part requires certain skills that I lack (even though I am totally amazeballs)

Might have filtered people off with the style of writing and the attitude. But that's only good.

brudgers
Just want to point out that you probably shouldn't expect special treatment when partnering with a "ruthless douchebag."

So it might make sense to consider a pair of them...with the other acting as your attorney.

seivan
Considering a filtering mechanism for both parts. If that ticks you off, fine. If not, let's talk. Not looking to waste anyones time. I'm... volatile and hard to get along with with most people. Most, not all. Some actually pull through and manage while collecting their shredded nerves from the ground that I tap-danced on.
davidhansen
Please correct me if I'm wrong about this, but last I knew, it is generally frowned upon for non-YC companies to use HN as a job-posting board ( with the single exception of the monthly "Hiring" threads )
kls
The I need a co-founder threads are usually tolerated because many time they can become interesting. The general theme has been to try to filter down the "I need to hire a developer" or "I need a job threads".
RyanHolliday
What will the ruthless cofounder be pitching? It's an app, but an app for what?
seivan
We need vendors who want to sell their items on our platform. And then accept payment digitally. Pretty much the most I feel like saying now. It's not that I am fearful and my billion dollar idea is so secrecy that barely I know about it. It's just that I'd like to say more to people who are sick of their jobs as consultant (moi) and want to move into a more product based work.
polshaw
There is nothing in your post that would give me any interest in what you are doing if i were a sales person (i'm not).

All i know (postively) is that you have an app, like 1000's of other people. OTOH, it is a co-founder position (although you say part time and refer imply >1 person already), so presumably no salary, you aren't making much money any time soon, you think sales people are douchebags (at best, inappropriate joke) and don't consider pitching 'real work'. I also don't see why you need someone from sales 'so [you] can use stripe'. And AFAIK don't you have to use the app store on non-jailbroken iOS devices??

Anyway, you could have overcome all these faux pas if you gave even a hint of something interesting.. perhaps tell people what you are doing? even some kind of vision of where you hope to end up might pique some peoples interest to at least inquire further.

seivan
Good comment!

"We need vendors who want to sell their items on our platform. And then accept payment digitally. Pretty much the most I feel like saying now. It's not that I am fearful and my billion dollar idea is so secrecy that barely I know about it. It's just that I'd like to say more to people who are sick of their jobs as consultant (moi) and want to move into a more product based work."

Added this to the original post. No, we are just 1 person (moi) - I will hire an Android dev or pick that shit up myself. Not sure yet. No. No salary. And I stand for expenses (servers, and etc).

No I don't consider pitching real work ~ unless they succeed.

I am sorry if it wasn't clear. I want to avoid to use App store In app purchases, ergo Stripe.com. Mostly because of the 30% cut, and other technical reasons.

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vnb
So you're looking for someone who'll actually hit the pavement selling your idea to customers (learn that word), presumably during daytime work hours, and also do some "real work" on the nights and weekends. While you sit back and take in payments through Stripe? Since you're averse to paying salaries or sharing 30% of the revenue with Apple or PayPal, what kind of equity will you offer your "cofounder"?

Out of sheer morbid curiosity I looked up your HN profile. Using the f-word twice in your own bio is quite revealing!

Good luck with your startup. I really, really hope you succeed.

seivan
created: 8 hours ago karma: 1

Oh I am sorry, does the F word scare you?

The equity part I'll rather take with someone who might be interested.

And you don't seem to be grasping that; I work during the daytime and during night time as well.

Geekette
Please do an update post to let us know how this turns out. I realize that takes a special kinda "ruthless douchebag", American MBA to immediately see the massive potential behind this opportunity to pitch stuff, and do actual work for unique platform-for-vendors-to-sell-stuff #200,456 from some non-local startup run by a guy who "to be honest" is "against non-technical people". Eff the haters, you obviously know that this required a highly customized shoutout to get the star douchebag you deserve.