Ask HN: Is there a spiritual successor to del.icio.us?
Recently I found myself looking for a place to store bookmarks. I used to love del.icio.us, but it's no longer around. What is its spiritual successor? I'm currently trying Pocket, which seems to be alright, but I wonder if there is anything else this community can recommend. The most important things for me would be integration with browsers, maybe a dedicated app, and mobile / desktop support.
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I wouldn't normally post a simple "me too" or "+1" but, in this case, the original poster was asking for a recommendation. So I think, in these circumstances, it's justified [and less messy] to give a 'me too' to a suggestion you agree with, rather than [as many others have done] post a separate reply, recommending the same site.
Yeah, we definitely don't want any noise here.Scrolls though dozens of repeat submissions of the same story every day, hundreds of submissions of tweets as news stories, endless spammy posts for 'keto gummies' and the regular moronic opinions of Evon-fucking-Latrail [whoever the fuck he is!]
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Just because there's a dog turd on my front lawn, it doesn't mean everyone should start dumping all the dog turds on my front lawn.
[1]: https://twitter.com/Pinboard/status/1476079701978345472
Glad he’s taking some time away from it.
Err... To just say he said he was "taking the year[...] off" has an entirely different connotation. The tweet says that he decided to step away from Twitter. Those comments don't explain the lack of activity on Pinboard. He in fact specifically mentions getting other things done and links to Pinboard.
Even the Pinboard blog URL [0]he linked to in his leaving Twitter tweet[1]is showing the Apache Default page to me.
I know there are a couple of good mobile apps for Pinboard but I’d much prefer just being able to use the site on mobile
[0] http://blog.pinboard.in/ [1] https://twitter.com/Pinboard/status/1476079701978345472?s=20...
When's the last time you tried that? Sometime in the past year ish (can't remember exact dates), it got updated to scale properly on narrow screens, and I've had no problem using it on mobile since then.
https://ibb.co/jZgzQnF
[1] https://apps.apple.com/ca/app/pins-for-pinboard/id1547106997
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30628375#30657065
idlewords: "Archiving (mis)behavior depends on what machine your account is assigned to"
There's a very good talk by Moxie "the ecosystem is moving"[1][2] and the reason you need your software to be changing constantly, even when it's doing one thing well, is because all other software is changing, moving requirements, compatibility, and integrations.
Also, it's not like we have no progress in UX. I quite like the light/dark theme in apps changing according to the time of day. It only really started working well within the last two years after all apps adapted.
[1] https://signal.org/blog/the-ecosystem-is-moving/ [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj3YFprqAr8
> a product that serves a relatively simple and clear-cut need like a bookmark stash
By the same reductionist logic, you could argue that people don't need a bookmarking service at all, they can just save bookmarks in a text file. Simple, clear-cut. No fuss.
It's not bad, but I haven't used it for long. I like that it finds dupes and has thumbnails like a news reader. I used yt-download to extract my YouTube favorites and playlists video urls into a .csv file and loaded those in as well, and it did the right thing. So we'll see.
One of its nicest features is that it can function as a mini-browser. For example, let's say you're working on a project where you need to have a lot of different sites open for documentation, guides, references and so on. Instead of opening them as tabs in a browser, you can bookmark them in Raindrop and then use Raindrop as the browser.
I mean, Pocket is great, one of the reasons I like Kobo readers is Pocket integration, and I prefer to read the articles in Pocket interface instead of the original.
But for things like YouTube videos, or comments in forums, etc., Pocket is not the best place to store these URLs long term.
Not a single app, but works for me (so far).
> On June 1, 2017, Delicious was acquired by Pinboard, and the bookmarking service was discontinued in favor of Pinboard's paid subscription-based service.
Pinboard is a bit of a HN darling, so I think you can expect a lot of recommendations for them :)
Ironic that a bookmarking website ran on a domain I had to bookmark, coz I could never remember it.
but i am glad you found the opportunity to do the nerdiest seinfeld impression.
- LinkAce (https://www.linkace.org)
- Linkding (https://github.com/sissbruecker/linkding)
- Wallabag (https://github.com/wallabag/wallabag)
- Buku (https://github.com/jarun/Buku)
- Linkwarden (https://github.com/Daniel31x13/link-warden)
- Shiori (https://github.com/go-shiori/shiori)
- archivebox (https://archivebox.io/)
It wasn't about hoarding personal data and keeping it secret. It was about sharing it publicly, like Twitter, and people following each other based on either personal connection or just a shared interest graph.
that said, i always wanted to split delicious up into "islands" of ~50k users or so, and allow each island determine it's own local rules. and if you didn't like your island, you could go elsewhere. yahoo wouldn't entertain this idea at the time.... this was before subreddits happened but the success of subreddits suggests to me that i was directionally correct
That was one of the biggest things I got out of Delicious… basically Reddit without the comments.
[1] https://github.com/jarun/buku
There's the potential of discoverability and seeing what other people recommend that can't really be done with offline bookmarking. In one sense because there's no company (other than pinboard?) that does "social bookmarking" maybe that means it's not a very large niche? Did places like delicio.us and pinboard succeed just because of the convenience of having a managed bookmark site?
I know it's not very popular, but there is the possibility of a 'persistent' bookmark service through some combination of web3/blockchain/ipfs/nft. This would solve the persistence problem but I wonder if the premise that social bookmarking is valuable is flawed to begin with.
BUT, this seems like a perfect fediverse offering. Decentralized, self-hosted (or not) software that all talks to other instances to create a sharing ecosystem for people who want it. Based on what other fediverse projects are doing, you could likely even share certain tags only with a certain scope. If there's demand for it, it seems like this would be a no-brainer.
I'm with you that, in theory, I see a value proposition there but in practice it's pretty thin. I remember using delicio.us to find out some interesting links based on some interesting peoples account, but it was very limited and I obviously haven't used that feature in years since delicio.us shut down.
So the "share" feature is useful, but not useful enough to warrant either a centralized entity to make enough money to keep the lights on or create decentralized version for the community?
I have a home-grown note taking/link saving facility that just so happens to be public facing because it's easier for me to keep it public than to worry about logins and such but the audience is very clearly focused on one individual, me.
I do wonder if there are other people that would actually use this type of service for it's community/sharing potential. Is there something adjacent that adds value?
https://github.com/hamsterbase/hamsterbase
1. 100% offline, no network requests will be sent. (The downside is that I don't know how many users I have
2. self-deploying. Provides docker image, compressed javascript source code (no binary).
3. open source API documentation and SDK
4. currently free, no restrictions.
5. support full-text serach and highlight webpages.
6. desktop and P2P synchronization in development
10 years later, this project will still available.
I think this is a problem crying out for a better solution though. Searchable local history with summarization and classification that respects incognito mode with good batch nuking capability.
Nothing seems to do that.
It's less simple than Delicious used to be, but it scratched the itch for a while for me. I barely ever bookmark anything these days. When Delicious was sold I stopped using it, and realised I didn't miss bookmarking and hardly ever read any of my bookmarks anyway. Excessive bookmarking seems like FOMO to me, I try to avoid it and embrace a more Zen-like attitude :)
https://www.wallabag.it/
I have been using it for the past 15 years with great satisfaction.
Why does this not exist in a general form for bookmarks? I want to bookmark articles and apps and then see how they rank and if I could read a better article about the topic or use a better app.
Side note: Mozilla, consider a paid subscription tier!
Sadly, they will probably sink that money in some unrelated side adventure that gets shut down 6 month down the line, while other services rot.
http://tentacle.rupy.se