> We use modified electric vehicles and can be anywhere on a given floor within eight and a half minutes.
At this point I'm picturing a huge walrus of a guy, hung with armored plating like a pine cone, speeding towards a crime scene at 5 kph on a mobility scooter.
The emergency services here can get anywhere in the city in eight and a half minutes. Having an eight minute response time inside a building is hardly impressive.
I can't tell if the guy is serious or just plain crazy. A mall cop duct taping shields to his back because he expects multiple 308 shots from the back? Husband and wife tag team in this situation... Plan A to shield from the shots with the vest while the wife assembles something more sturdy.. Which mall is this supposed to be? I would rather someone shuts down the mall at such a high risk location. If it is supposed to be preparation for a once in a life time occurrence, without regular tactical training and drills (not feasible for a mall cop org), the vests are going to be useless in an actual emergency. Relax and let SWAT handle the situation if/when it occurs.
This has to be a prank or some walrus mall cop's fantasy.
I have the feeling this guy was serious. If for no other reason than that he stopped responding. I feel like if it was a joke he would’ve kept responding and dialing up the ridiculousness. He also seemed pretty authentically earnest.
There are a bunch of people in American gun culture who are obsessed with “preparedness”. Some of these people may have a kernel of reason (maybe they live in a rough neighborhood and have a small sidearm that they hope they never have to use). But any culture like this has its exemplars, people who fixate on preparing for outlandishly rare severe scenarios, but lack the competency to actually do so properly.
Like, if this guy was actually dealing with violence at his workplace regularly or even once a year, he wouldn’t be talking in the future conditional tense (“if there’s an incident cops will let us…”, “I’m worried that someone might try to…”), he’d be talking in the present progressive tense (“when there’s an incident the cops usually tell us we can…”, “When someone tries to shoot me I generally…”).
In all likelihood he’s a mall cop in a town that probably has very little gun crime but had one tragic shooting 10 years ago, and he has become obsessed with being prepared for the next one.
How did you get to this part and still think he was serious?
> "I am a Master of three martial arts including ninjitsu, which means I can wear the special boots to climb walls. I don't think any of you are working as hard as I am to be prepared. I asked a serious question about tactical armor and I wanted a serious response. If you want to laugh at somebody, try laughing at the sheep out there who go to the mall unarmed trusting in me to stand guiard over their lives like a God."
It's pretty clearly a troll based on the first post, but the replies guarantee it.
This is the part where I also started laughing, because the troll finally made themselves self-evident. Everything prior was pure artwork as I was on the edge and trying to figure out if real/troll
Is there even body armour that can stop .308? The energy involved makes me think that broken ribs would be the least worst outcome of your "armour" being hit, internal bleeding feels like a likely outcome.
.308 is probably referring to 7.62 NATO. If so there do exist level IV rifle plates that can also protect against a single impact from 7.62 NATO ball.
HESCO make some and I’m sure others do as well. But they’re not cheap. The HESCO plates I’m thinking of also claim to stop 30-06 armor piercing! You might survive a hit like that on your plates but the blunt force of the impact would still cause injury.
Cheers, I bet they're frigging heavy, and yeah, I also imagine that taking a hit like that would render you somewhat ineffective in the immediate aftermath.
(I shoot .308, and IIRC there's no measurably significant difference in energy imparted to the target between .308 and 7.62x51 with the same weight pill, although, as is often the case with guns, a slight difference in pressure rating for the brass leads to a bunch of folk theories)
I'm doing reseach for my script for a movie, where an evil European accent takes hostages in a food court to extort Cinnabon Reward Points, the working title is Die Hardee's - Death Comes To Us Mall.
...I apologise for the puns, but it was hard to resist. But yeah, having seen what a .308 does to a deer, I was struggling to imagine how you'd defend against that in a ballistic vest.
Wow that brings back fond memories of my youth. That thread spawned numerous memes across the gun forums I frequented at the time. I remember reading this on ar15.com but that could be the mists of time obscuring my memory.
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[ 2.8 ms ] story [ 38.2 ms ] threadThis one seems harmless.
The worst IMHO are the men (it's always men) who fake their death for attention, and then create a girlfriend in mourning.
At this point I'm picturing a huge walrus of a guy, hung with armored plating like a pine cone, speeding towards a crime scene at 5 kph on a mobility scooter.
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Mall_ninja
There are a bunch of people in American gun culture who are obsessed with “preparedness”. Some of these people may have a kernel of reason (maybe they live in a rough neighborhood and have a small sidearm that they hope they never have to use). But any culture like this has its exemplars, people who fixate on preparing for outlandishly rare severe scenarios, but lack the competency to actually do so properly.
Like, if this guy was actually dealing with violence at his workplace regularly or even once a year, he wouldn’t be talking in the future conditional tense (“if there’s an incident cops will let us…”, “I’m worried that someone might try to…”), he’d be talking in the present progressive tense (“when there’s an incident the cops usually tell us we can…”, “When someone tries to shoot me I generally…”).
In all likelihood he’s a mall cop in a town that probably has very little gun crime but had one tragic shooting 10 years ago, and he has become obsessed with being prepared for the next one.
> "I am a Master of three martial arts including ninjitsu, which means I can wear the special boots to climb walls. I don't think any of you are working as hard as I am to be prepared. I asked a serious question about tactical armor and I wanted a serious response. If you want to laugh at somebody, try laughing at the sheep out there who go to the mall unarmed trusting in me to stand guiard over their lives like a God."
It's pretty clearly a troll based on the first post, but the replies guarantee it.
Certainly lying abt the 400 rounds daily, though. No mall would foot that bill, with or without adhesive.
before I realized I was being trolled. shame on me.
HESCO make some and I’m sure others do as well. But they’re not cheap. The HESCO plates I’m thinking of also claim to stop 30-06 armor piercing! You might survive a hit like that on your plates but the blunt force of the impact would still cause injury.
(I shoot .308, and IIRC there's no measurably significant difference in energy imparted to the target between .308 and 7.62x51 with the same weight pill, although, as is often the case with guns, a slight difference in pressure rating for the brass leads to a bunch of folk theories)
I'm doing reseach for my script for a movie, where an evil European accent takes hostages in a food court to extort Cinnabon Reward Points, the working title is Die Hardee's - Death Comes To Us Mall.
...I apologise for the puns, but it was hard to resist. But yeah, having seen what a .308 does to a deer, I was struggling to imagine how you'd defend against that in a ballistic vest.