Ask HN: How many are switching to Mastodon?

48 points by beauHD ↗ HN
With Musk officially at the helm of Twitter now, I noticed a few prominent people on Twitter saying they have jumped ship to Mastodon or other platforms. How many on here are considering disbanding and choosing Mastodon as an exit strategy? Does Musk = Bad hold any weight?

I know for me I noticed a sharp decline in engagement on my Twitter account, and a recent study said Twitter's core users are leaving in droves. I don't even get any new followers. They used to trickle in over time, but all that has stalled. Twitter has now devolved into bread and circuses IMHO.

Anyone jumping ship?

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I created a Twitter account for the first time since 2014. Excited for the show.
I was on in 2011 and tweeted for a while there when I had a friend network that did the same. Time changes us and people grow apart. I dropped off the tweet train hard in 2015 and got on with my life.

I'm just sad that social networks are dying under the strangling weight of advertising instead of being simplified, made robust, and turned into public utilities.

I'm not going to up and close my Twitter account for no reason, but I did just finally get around to opening an account on a Mastodon server. I've been meaning to start moving more to the Fediverse anyway, so this isn't a complete knee-jerk thing. But all the recent brouhaha over Elon buying Twitter did serve as sort of a nudge to finally take some action in that regard.

I do eventually intend to (at least mostly) wind down my use of all "walled garden" sites like Twitter, Facebook, etc., but I will probably do so gradually. And I may leave the accounts open and populated with a bot that periodically posts a reminder of where I can be found, or something. Not sure yet.

+1 to the winding down by trying to use alternatives, and working on the gaps

Facebook Messenger < Signal < XMPP. I have a few stragglers on FB Messenger, but don't have the app installed.

Facebook Marketplace < Gumtree. Gumtree at least is searchable without an account.

I subscribe to Mastodon and Twitter accounts via RSS.

Github < Sourcehut: I only use Github for contributing to other repos.

Mobile Linux > Open app stores > closed app store: WIP. :)

It's been ~6 hours since Musk closed the deal. Maybe he shadow banned your account in the afternoon
I have an old account that I created as a placeholder when Twitter formed but have not signed in for a long time. Assuming that old account still exists maybe I'll give it a whirl to watch the show. There are a lot of rumors about what comes next, including rumors of integrations with a few other platforms.

As for Mastadon, I like the idea and even thought about spinning up a few instances but I really don't do social media beyond HN so I expect even the chirping crickets would bail on me.

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I've been intending to for a while, but felt locked in since some folks I never got a way to IM with them when they stopped using AIM or I had no PGP or Signal for, so while they're not encrypted at rest it was at least better than plaintext.

I never was an IRC user, I'm from what I term the "vBulletin era". Folks were super adamant I shouldn't be writing malware, building botnets, or siphoning up large swathes of credit cards and selling them to the Russians... but then they'd never connect me with anything except a PhD, the FBI, the CIA, or some other... agency.

That sort of annoying obstructionism is why I bounced around a lot in my 20s, then loudly declared they're gonna nuke DC, not Pittsburgh, and moved back to 412.

Anyways, I can't tell you how Mastadon is, socially. But I can tell you that the folks who were on Twitter when I joined it with the pormanteau of my first and last name I also stupidly used on a video game forum when I was 11ish to ask for help... I thought we were all on the same page about not showing up in what was obviously a public facing account and interacting in the same way you would on Facebook, which was, at least for me, always a walled garden -- I'd blocked a few family members and the intent was nothing went out to the public internet, as well as quite obviously a personal account.

Anyways, the short version is if you just want to have technical discussions, I've heard it's decent, but I have no idea how they navigate the ever present issue in online communities of sea lions[1] who have the same interactions over and over, waiting for you to respond in a way that gives them more cause to complain.

Like, at one point this week someone knocked on my door, and I had to politely remind them I'd asked them not to come into my apartment building without permission, then I wanted to say how about I throw you out the window if being politely asked not to come in here doesn't work... but despite that being a perfectly legal thing to say to someone who is trespassing -- or to just do it -- to just grab someone, throw them down the stairs, then throw them straight out the back door, possibly injuring or killing them along the way.

There's a type of person, on Twitter, who reads stuff like the above then has an absolute fit if told well gee, if reading something dontbenebby posted on Twitter scared you then... don't.

I guess I could file an appeal or something, but this has been a problem all they way back to when the folks who'd make a show of not giving you detention for standing up for yourself as they stat raped their way across the county... someone obtains an unpaid volunteer position they're only energized enough to do because they're a privlidged white man (or woman) -- then abused their access to that position to keep folks from expressing ideas they don't like.

(And I know that sounds Qanon-y -- I'm talking about ideas like "I'm not a communist, I'd be part of one of the largest political parties in a country like Germany and conflating the two is fascist".)

Anyways TLDR: Mastadon might be cool, but it might be better to just lurk for a bit OP

I think Twitter will have a standard, organic death that comes from a space with absolute free speech. It’s going to be too soul sapping for most people and will gradually lose its audience except the fringers.
If you're inclined to close your account to protest the Musk takeover, it would probably make more sense (and carry more impact) to do it when he reinstates Trump's account, not simply because there was a change of ownership.

And yes, I imagine there are some people who resent Musk's takeover of Twitter yet who would welcome Trump's return. But I can't think of anyone who would fall into that category.

I've had a Mastodon account for a pretty long time, but I've never really done anything with it. I've found discoverability to be quite difficult.
Who are the prominent people advocating for leaving Twitter?
Is it really gonna turn into a hellscape just because people you disagree with will no longer be silenced?
A hellscape for people with fragile ideological bubbles, thin skins, and too much time on their hands, absolutely.
I don't do Twitter, at all, who are we talking about?
No one in particular. The decrease in moderation will, logically, make Twitter worse for anyone who can’t stand opposing viewpoints (whatever they may be), or who loves spending hours arguing.
The concern is not about disagreeable ideas, it's about abuse and threats.

Not all censorship is de jure.

The motte: censoring abuse and threats.

The bailey: Twitter censoring NY Post during election time.

Disclaimer: I don't follow US politics, but do follow online censorship.

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I welcome all to check out Sqwok (https://sqwok.im). It's been a labor of love and it continues to be developed with a goal of becoming an excellent place for live public discussion.

Personally I'm interested to see what happens at Twitter with Elon at the helm.

A friend and active Twitter user who lets say isn't a fan of his, has stated that they don't think he'd be foolish enough to burn it to the ground and thus won't be going anywhere. I agree.

Is there ActivityPub federation yet?
Not yet but I am curious how that might work? I do want to build an api soon and planning to make some changes to the Posts, add rss, other stuff.
There might already be an ActivityPub library for whatever language you used.
I created a mastodon presence a while ago, and then forgot about it, and then got back on there today after deleting my twitter (I had an acct since 2008 but barely used it anyways) and it seems there is a bit of an inbound wave happening. But as it's not really an environment much like Twitter, I think a lot of people will sign up, poke around and leave.

I also just made it on mstdn.social, but probably I should have applied into one of the more specialist fedi-thingies. I dunno.

Should be interesting to see how it all shakes down.

Personally what I want is an alternative to Facebook.

Twitter will be all the better with people like that leaving honestly. You can't fathom a platform with people you disagree with not being silenced?
I very much want to be in discussions with people who disagree with me. That said I equally want those discussions to be had in good faith, without lies or conscious distortions. I’d like to be free of bots, or maybe better, to have bots labelled as such. The “marketplace of ideas” requires transparency and “perfect information” at least as much as does the economic marketplace after which it was named. If Tesla were to knowingly post false numbers it would be heavily penalized and eventually forced out of the market. Why should standards be lower in the marketplace of ideas?
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Don't use twitter. So not jumping ship, mostly avoided it in the first place. Too much politics in the way it is run, for my taste. Been using Mastodon for the last year or two, once NA fired one up. ITM!
This is a "free speech" guy, not a free speech guy. If Twitter follows other "free speech" platforms, it will become very one-sided. I'd expect all the newly banned folks to set up elsewhere. Maybe Mastodon, maybe something more established like Tumblr.
I don’t know if that will be the case. Previous free speech platform attempts only attracted a specific crowd - but Twitter has the opposing crowd quite firmly entrenched, so it may balance out better.
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I used to have an account and forgot long time ago. It's so difficult to keep using it while most of my friends are using facebook or twitter.
I'm not jumping ship because I want to see/experience what happens. If he turns it into something I don't want to be part of (it's close to that already, as I just don't gain much from being on it), then I'll stop using the platform, I guess. I don't think I'll go to Mastodon though, I'll just be done.
Yeah, pretty keen on moving to services that don't optimize for engagement, which so often has been things like "the new terrible thing person x has said". Hoping there's a new wave of non-algo sites and forums and things.
Created my Twitter account in 2007; one of the first 700,000 accounts on the service.

I’m not jumping ship; I’m taking a wait and see attitude.

I did signup for Jack Dorsey’s new social network: https://blueskyweb.xyz

I’ve had Mastodon account for while but I’ve haven’t used it much, but that may change…

Every once in a while I'll think, maybe Twitter isn't really the garbage dumpster fire I think it is, and I'll go try to find some useful information via Google searches. Just tried it for something I'm interested in, i.e.

site:twitter.com financialization of the economy

Yup, still a useless pile of garbage, full of one-liners, silly memes, links to corporate media articles that aren't worth reading because you already know what PR message they'll be putting out, etc. Best thing that could happen would be for Musk to buy it and then just pull the plug, although that seems fairly unlikely.

I think there's valid criticisms of Twitter; the medium encourages a writing style that I find pretty cringe-worthy a lot of the time. It does encourage hot takes and isn't a very good place for nuanced discussion of charged topics. It is, like all social media platforms, a contributor to polarization in all sorts of topics, some that matter more than others.

The value in Twitter depends heavily on how you curate your feed, though. If you fill it with thoughtful people that are experts in the fields you're interested, it can be quite enlightening. If you fill it with people who mostly post memes, you'll get memes. If you fill it with pundits, you'll get bite-sized takes. You get to choose that.

Nope, going to create a twitter account shortly.
> I know for me I noticed a sharp decline in engagement

I noticed this a little while ago. If I tweet now noone ever replies, unless the tweet is a response to a popular tweet. I have over 3000 'followers' and suddenly noone is interested in what I have to say? Maybe I got dull

Not jumping ship yet, but certainly not happy about Musk being in charge.

I've tried Mastodon a few times, but it never seems to stick. I don't know anyone irl on it, or even any accounts that focus much on my local area. I think federation is interesting, but I think it'd work better if individuals had a close affinity with a particular community that chose to maintain a server (like a town, university, church, volunteer organization, etc). As it stands, people try to use it as a clumsy Twitter and join random servers they know little about.

The best thing that would come out of this is that I break my Twitter habit and hang out with friends at the pub more often.