Ask HN: What mindset change made the biggest positive change for you?

85 points by ChildOfChaos ↗ HN
Always curious about these things, because I think too much about how to think, what to think, how best to be etc... it can be in any domain, no matter how small, if it made a difference to you, i'm curious, how/why.

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Taking extreme personal responsibility for any consequence even things usually deemed outside one’s control. Understanding that there’s no known limit to one human’s potential positive impact over one lifetime.
Gratitude.

Whenever I'm feeling down or off, if I can remember to begin enumerating all the people and aspects of my life I'm grateful for, it has a tremendous and powerful positive effect.

Yes. Giving the love back I’m given is the greatest feeling.
Realizing no one is going to make your life better. Everyone is dealing with their own stuff and waiting on anyone else to do things for you is a poor life strategy. You have to take control of your own life and stop blaming others for your problems. Life is long and there is plenty of time to work on yourself - living as a miserable person full of hatred, jealousy, and regret is terrible. You need to have an optimistic attitude and make changes every single day to improve your situation.
There are a lot of important lessons.

Focus on one thing at a time and finish it.

Sleep matters

It's nearly impossible to fail out of tech; we're made. We'll all retire just fine. So why worry?

Life is for the living

Love and compassion is what gives meaning

Get Stoic. I remember the day where I had a long travel and laptop and the Seneca's letters opened on it. I arrived being absolutely happy person because I learned the wisest religion/philosophy/livestyle possible. So simple to understand any branch of philosophy now - I just compare it with the Stoic mind and easily decide is it good for me or bad for me.
Can you expand on this? What about Stoicism specifically resonated with you? How has it changed your attitudes and ideas?
Well, I always wanted to be a scientist as a kid, especially when I was watching something like Animal Planet. I was not thinking about studying animals and not about making a great video - I was thinking about doing observations, drawing conclusions and, therefore, uploading some facts about something. But society tells me that I should be rich, relatives tell me that I need to start a family first, my brain insisted that I devote more time to my favorite video game in order to stop being a noob in it ...

After this trip, I began to build my life in such a way that I always have some time dedicated to science, and I also lost interest in spending time and youth in such a stupid way as video games. I became aware of some of the sources of pain in my daily life and stopped being vulnerable to it. Now I am not afraid that life goes on because I do the right thing.

> And what specifically responded to you in stoicism?

Understanding of wisdom versus stupidity. Their respect to mathematics and other sciences. My inability to formulate any criticism of this framework.

Seneca's amazing. I just want to second this recommendation. Apart from his letters, I also loved "On the shortness of life".
Realization that I'm not thinking but I'm being thought. That a lot of my thoughts are on autopilot. If you consciously remind yourself this you will keep most of suffering at bay. Even little things like slight irritation.

Do whatever useful thinking you want consciously and whenever you are aware that your mind is wandering, just notice it. I agree it is easier said that done and it needs practice

That I should stop being concerned with people who don’t give a shit if I live or die. That impressing “cool” people is childish and instead to find the genuine people who care about me and invest in those relationships.

I used to be in a social circle that felt cliquey and revolving around status, and would have panic attacks because I never felt emotionally safe and never felt like I had a true loving base.

Once I made a point to be positive, polite, respect boundaries and ignore trying to be something I’m not, I became a more empathetic, optimistic, and fun person.

I put out good energy, appreciate those who return it, and don’t sweat those who don’t.

Getting older was a big part of it and surrounding myself with people who value hard work and empathy.

I stopped listening to other peoples opinions. People give advice that has:

1. Bias

2. Ego and pride baked in to justify their own lives

3. Fear that you may succeed in a way that invalidates their life decisions

To harp more on this, some people's social status is built on what is basically lies. "I'm an entrepreneur", when in fact they have never made a dime from their own business. Or, "I am a genius programmer", but are really just a mediocre mid level dev at Google. But their life partner, and close friends may sustain and build upon that false reality. Understanding these dynamics earlier in life would have gotten me very far

After lots of meditation, I realized that what pained me about certain fearful/angry/hateful/shameful thoughts I had was not the mere fact that I had them, but my attachment to them.

That is, the thought only caused me significant pain if I honestly thought it was true -- a part of who I am, a part of my story, a part of my life in some way.

The most I practice mindfulness, the more I'm able to be mindful to my attachment to certain thoughts in the moment. As soon as I see this attachment as it is, the power it holds over me dissolves a bit and the pain I feel around it almost magically slips away.

Recognize my insignificance in the large scheme of things was quite empowering. Now I don't worry about optimizing for creating a big impact, I just try to help wherever I can while enjoying my life to the fullest. Correcting all the wrong in the world is not my responsibility.
Not-actually-pedantic pedantry, or objective, "hyperbolic" (not actually though) precision/accuracy.

It's "not for everyone" though, to put it mildly. It is also not without negative consequences.

I've always had this mindset, and I believe it's what has helped propel me forward in life:

> I am responsible for every single thing that happens in my life.

The power in this mindset is that it eliminates all excuses and makes you the captain of your destiny. The truth is, the vast majority of the things that happen in our lives, whether in the next 10 minutes or the next 10 years is ultimately the result of our decisions. Whenever anything bad happens, I always ask myself: what could I have done differently to have a better outcome or to have prevented that bad thing from happening in the first place? And without fail, there were always things I could've done differently or better. Then I take those learnings and apply them in the future in similar situations to have better outcomes.

Yes, obviously there is noise and randomness in the world outside of our control, but in the long term those things get averaged out and what you are left with are all of the decisions you made in your life that got you to where you are today. Most of the time, I've found that things aren't how we want them to be not because of the things that we did, but because of the things we didn't do. Achieving your goals often requires you to endure great suffering. Most people aren't willing to do that, so they never get what they want.

The alternative is to be a hapless victim buffeted by the winds of fate. That is a terrible way to live life.

Of course there will be some bad things that happen that are really a bolt from the blue. Maybe you're walking on a sidewalk and a car careens out of nowhere, hits you, and you end up being paralyzed from the waist down. Or god forbid you get cancer. But I maintain that the best way to handle any and every situation (including those terrible ones) is to not get emotional but focus on what you can do to make the most of it. At the end of the day, we all have to play the cards we're dealt. How you play them will ultimately decide whether or not you achieve the life you want.

Ironically, adopting this attitude almost gave me a breakdown, but I got MS when I was 26 and then ended up being a caretaker for my sister with bipolar. I blamed myself for everything - after all, everybody else with my skill level/education can work 40+ hours a week in a professional job, so clearly there must be SOME answer. If programs don't work for us, I must have been doing something wrong. I would spend all of my free time searching for solutions and blaming myself for the situation, which just made me depressed and suicidal.

So your results may vary. I have found that being scathingly honest about where I do have agency (as you mention in your last paragraph) is very helpful.

You raise a good point. Self-love and extreme ownership are orthogonal. You can practice extreme ownership and hold yourself accountable for your life, but you do not need to do it in a toxic self-destructive way. I've always held myself to a high bar and would often harshly berate myself when I did something wrong. Now I do it in a healthy constructive manner while still holding myself accountable.
I have seen the most positive change from being more compassionate towards myself.

It is so easy to put pressure, shame, and negativity onto yourself, to a degree that you never would for anyone else. It has been very helpful at times to ask "What would I say to a good friend who was in the same situation as me?". Almost always, it is a complete 180 from the aweful things I would tell myself. Knowing that I have the ability to be just as compassionate to myself as I strive to be towards others, has been huge.

I'm old so people ask me for advice from time to time. Most often the first thing I hear myself saying is, "Try to give yourself a break". Usually what people have related to me when asking, is so needlessly hard on themselves. Anyway I think you're on to something positive.
Switching from seeking happiness to seeking meaning. Happiness is fleeting, and at some stretches of time, out of reach.

Meaning is a more solid foundation to build a life around. It will get you through dark times, but it surprised me how much more I appreciated happiness as a result.

Camus thought it was the noblest of pursuits to try and create meaning in an absurd universe. Jung, thought meaning was the one thing a person couldn't abide living without. With those thoughts I think you're in pretty good company.
Thank you for the comment. The word that struck me most in your reply was "absurd". It's a very accurate description. I had always thought the word "horror" was a good label, and "cosmic horror" was a good way of describing a suffering life where you eventually die.

We are like cosmic ants on our little ant hill of a planet that can be kicked over by any number of events not least self inflicted annihilation through nuclear war.

It makes sense to me that most people without meaning will fall into distraction, hedonism or nihilism.

In a way I was lucky as my meaning was thrust on me as a parent. The best way I've heard it put is that the voluntary acceptance of responsibility creates meaning. That said, I was never going to shirk my responsibilities as a parent.

Having someone else who needed me gave me the meaning necessary to endure enormous suffering, to never let go, and to keep pushing through.

If I wasn't a parent I don't know how I would have done.

It's strange now to reflect because my life is so much better now and I'm oddly thankful for the ordeal.

I'm glad it resonated, as your comment did with me. I think your comment here about responsibility and meaning is really insightful. You might enjoy some Camus or Gogol.
Realizing that all the negative things I thought about myself and my future were self-fulfilling prophecies.

Such negative attitudes and negative views have been a long-standing part of my depression, and repeating them constantly and believing in them made my life palpably worse.

By not focusing on the negative, not focusing on the past nor on things I can not change, but focusing on the positive and hopeful things about myself, my future, and the world, I have been able to move forward in a positive direction rather than continuing to spiral downwards.

"Everybody thinks I'm an asshole" -> I think I'm an asshole. (Is something that I've realized about myself)
Radical acceptance.

When feeling frustrated with someone I care about or that is close to me, instead of trying to fix or change them or wanting them to be different, accepting without any contingency that this is exactly who they are and will be.

Yes. The more I relinquish the illusion that I can control others, and step back from the impulse to do so, the more I'm able to simply love them. Warts and all.
The mindset that comes with having lots of money in a world of scarcity. Not having to worry about money allows you the freedom to be whoever you want.

That's the truth. It's just uncomfortable for those with money and not enough courage to admit it.

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You can today, prepare a better life for your future self.

In other words, looking backwards, that what we are today and have today, is the result of everything we chose, did, said, and even thought, in the past. So by wielding the power of preparation, we are able to influence our own future.

Example 1: Order that nice dress today, to feel better next week at that friend's party. (Prepare a great gift, so you make them extra happy.)

Example 2: Get that driver's license this year, to take that roadtrip in the mountains next year.

Example 3: Buy groceries on this windy/rainy day for dietary purpose, to feel healthier and lighter before year end.

I find thinking about my future self motivating. Why wouldn't I want to do something nice for me?

Much more effective than thinking about what I "should" do.

Just asking few "why" for the thing I do and figure out whether I do that for a good reason or because I got taught/got used to it. Helps for talking with other people too, hell, asking few whys will sometimes make people solve their own problems instead of bothering me.

And saying "yeah, I fucked up, X happened and I did Y because of Z that turned out to be mistake because this an that" then proceeding to fix it.

Shuts up people that think it's more important to find the blame than to solve the problem real quick. It's hard at first, especially when coming from environment where mistake = failure (school system...) but freeing once you get used to it.

I don't think this made the biggest positive change for me, but it is an attitude I have found exceptionally useful, because it's an exceptional behavior that I don't see in others:

If you're struggling, search harder. Specifically, search. Not work--you're probably already working hard if you're struggling. But so many problems people have are proximity based, and sometimes you need to exhaust your search options before you figure out that the problem you had is really difficult to solve, because nearly no one is addressing it on a statistical basis.

This applies to finding a good price on repairs, finding a decent paying job, or understanding if you're solving a general solution in a known suboptimal way.

Search harder. A lot of our actions depend on the information we collect and how we process it to make decisions. And most people you know aren't going out of their way to understand what information they have at their disposal. They're making decisions based on what is in front of them.

And a lot of life we live today is based on interactions we make with people we don't know thinking a lot about how they can be the one to present information to us, and sometimes by explicitly leaving alternative information out.

I hope that helps you see life through a different prism.

Interesting, I certainly see cases where searching harder as you put it, has helped me, but how do you contrast this with not overthinking?
A good exercise for this if you know you regularly overthink is to make a list of your thoughts or concerns and try to prioritize them. Then cross everything off that can hold off or isn't important enough to focus on right now until you're down to maybe one or two topics. Three is far too much. People focus best on one thing at a time.

Then ignore the rest. If one of your concerns bubbles up again, it was probably important enough to reprioritize.

Realizing that motivation is not a symptom of discipline, but rather that it is a neurotic emotion that will flee from you when it is most desired and needed. This came with the realization that discipline isn't something we are born with and is something to be practiced. One can thereby increase the amount of discipline available to them to exercise in times of trouble, thus increasing the amount of torment they are able to endure.
Always be prepared to use opportunities when they appear. Because they will appear no matter how bad the situation is.
I admit this may sound a bit odd (and possibly even mildy schizophrenic), but I adopted the shell-kernel model for interactions. Now, when someone says something I agree or disagree with, it goes first through the shell, giving me some time to filter it, analyze it, and consider whether or not a response is really required. If the shell says, hey, take a look at this, only then does the kernel respond. The result is that most of the time the kernel stays calm, cool, relaxed and can focus on important things (and also, ensure any responses are polite rather than overly aggressive or confrontational).

It was a bit tricky at first, because people might think I'm ignoring them (or even somewhat autistic), so the shell has to be personable and pay attention and act like a normal human being. The real benefit, however, is that the whole 'triggered' thing (rather prevalent in today's society) just stops being a problem, and you get a little breathing space in which to think about how best to respond to someone.

That sounds a lot like the descriptions in the book "The Chimp Paradox", which posits that within us, there are both a chimp, and a human. The chimp reacts emotionally, the human reacts logically.