Ask HN: Why so many Indians work in US/Australia instead of India?

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Is it more prestigious to work in Western countries than India?

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I presume salaries are considerably better, you have much better direct access to prominent western companies (FAANG etc.) without needing to go through third party contracting shops, you also have better access to western education, population density is lower, average living space per person is higher, you have an opportunity to potentially escape the caste system if that's relevant and quality of life (pollution, opportunities, etc.) may, may seem to, or may eventually be better.
Can you elaborate on "escape the castle system"?
Well, I'll try. I'm not Indian for reference so I'll probably be 60% right at best, or less.

India sort of has racial strains of people, which, I think, correlate kind of with geography, or used to. They're often revealed by a person's family name. These groups have distinct visual differences (skin tone, hair patterns, etc.) and cultural differences. Some would argue that intelligence is a factor as well. Over time in India these divisions became a sort of class system where a fairer-skinned class (or 'caste') ended up being dominant over others. This is reflected most obviously in their media, where light skinned people dominate in film and advertising. There is to this day prejudice along these lines, where those in a "low caste" are discriminated against, and cross-caste upwards mobility is discouraged, and this manifests as bullying, oppression limitations and prejudice against such people in matters of work, education, opportunities, love, etc. Things are improving a bit, but they're by no means good yet.

I have directly seen this myself, where we hired one person from the high caste and some who weren't, and she seemingly naturally started to boss those people around in a rather direct (she was not management) and rude way that others in our company did not do and they kind of went with it, which was upsetting to see.

Obviously there are a number of Indian expatriates everywhere so this thing is difficult to escape I imagine, but I would guess Indians who were born into a low caste may like to take advantage of the fact that many western countries would frown upon workplace discrimination and try and have a neutral life experience away from India, which is still struggling with this issue.

Frustratingly for me, the west doesn't really speak of this, and doesn't offer training to people so they can try and help or support people who may be struggling with these issues.

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The growth of my learning and experience was too slow while in India. I was unlucky but after coming here I learned hell of a lot about software engineering and infra stuff. Money is good but only after you go back to India and while you are living here the standard of living is very very poor as compared to when I used to earn in India. But as long as I get to learn and contribute and get experience in what I wanted I am all good here. I want to go back but only when I know that I have a better opportunity back than here. I miss my country too. The culture is here is just too weird with all the shaming and the tipping culture. People get hurt with the slightest thing here in US which is so so wierd.
There is nothing unusual in this.

The market for highly skilled people is global and people will prefer to work in places with higher wages, better living conditions and quality of life.

English education and familiarity with democratic political system makes the US, Britain, Singapore, Australia and other countries relatively more attractive than other countries at the same income level.

Are there really that many as a fraction of total Indian population ?
Add to that list Europe, Middle-East, Japan and South-East Asia.

Interestingly, yesterday I was watching[0] an Indian journalist analyse the Lancet report related to effects of population growth on various countries. He was analysing it from India's perspective. None the less it is very interesting analysis and provides some answers to your question.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5ariMoaxCk

Exactly how can there be any other answer other than $?
Actually prestige is simply an euphemism for purchasing power. Just because you may get a better living quality outside US doesn't mean that that's the better option unless of course one's food rent alone is all that you ever care about, for prices in general are fixed across borders, increasingly a problem as borders are getting nearer. Like, you may think that martians got nothing to do with you since they are far, but as sure as globalization, then-they-came will come.

Tldr: money makes the world go round / no man is in a well.