Edit; also the layout is breaking my brain. Each pair of hole cards side by side like every poker website, book, or broadcast would be 50x better
Also also… don’t like the 2 step since it doesn’t make clear which cards already e its in the hand, and you’re already at 24 buttons… 46 wouldn’t be that much more, even
this is pretty cool. got the first one in 5 guesses. the rules are a little complex but understandable. I didn't quite pick up that the flop, turn, and river are their own little "lanes" at first but it makes sense.
I would perhaps word it as "guess the flop, turn, and river of the game" - not "guess the 5 cards"
Strange, works for me, and I have played it on three different days now... However it's a project of another HN user that they only mentioned in another thread, so it might still be work in progress.
Or they didn't want to use cookies for fear of GDPR :) ? But I'm not sure you can get off the GDPR hook by collecting IP addresses instead of setting cookies actually...
Yes, that's why I was moving to LocalStorage based model but this created two different sources of truth which was the whole cause of bug. I'll fix all the issues and delete all data in cloud ASAP. :)
i play wordle regularly and really enjoyed this. was very satisfying and managed to get it on the 6th guess my first attempt. worked fine playing on iphone 13 mini.
Which one? Anything with a physical button (NB: 2019+ iPad Pros do not have a button) doesn’t have the issue, but they don’t have a home bar.
There’s also a huge difference between iPhone and iPad here. iPad puts the share/tab buttons in the main top bar, and page content goes all the way to the bottom of the screen. (Disclaimer: kickstand case so I’m in landscape.)
On iPhone there is a dedicated bar for those below the content, so it doesn’t affect the UI, as the home bar goes below THAT.
Interesting, but I feel if there is a card on the board that doesn't contribute to any player's result, it's too hard to guess in just five tries. You have 2,3,4...A, which is too many options, even if you manage to get the suit correct.
I don't really know how to change the rules to compensate for this, but it feels like these 'unrelated' cards ruin the game in a way.
What you're talking about is a "random kicker" and the rules specifically say there aren't any. Every flop card hits someone's hand, in terms of rank, if not suit.
This makes it significantly easier. Got it in 3, could have gotten it in 2 except I had a 50/50 on the suit of the last card and I picked the wrong 50.
This isn’t a problem: No random kickers on the board - The rank of each board card will alway be a part of at least one player's hand in at least one phase.
I like it, but it relies on too much luck once all logical deduction is exhausted: I feel like it needs another clue source in there. Perhaps giving you a flop card for free
would be enough.
Another thing is to accept any answer that would explain the bronze/silver/gold.
Or what would be cool is take WSOP actual games, show the action and the cards, and you guess the flop/turn/river.
Yes agreed. Had everything dialed in except a card that I only knew to be a spade and no helpful information from the ranks. Just had to exhaust my guesses numerically.
Got to this point as well. But it requires a certain amount of logic and intelligence to put together the process of elimination test efficiently. Got mine on try 6.
Any answer that explains the rankings is too broad. That takes no luck and you should get it first time. I get what you mean though, there is a bit too much luck
You get an additional clue that there are no “kickers” on the board. Quoting from the the help:
“No random kickers on the board - The rank of each board card will alway be a part of at least one player's hand in at least one phase.
Note: "part of a hand" means the significant card(s) in: Pair, Two Pair, Three of a Kind or Four of a Kind (not kickers)
TLDR: You may have to guess a card's suit with no clues, but not it's rank”
I won the first puzzle in 4 guesses, but had a tough time understanding the rules. I think some more clarification/simplification is in order. For example, it took me a minute to understand the colors represented gold/silver/bronze...
I had every rank from the first guess and then had to use two more guesses just to find the appropriate suits with the only information being that I needed to avoid putting a flush on the board.
I like it, and would be interested to see some entropy analysis like what 3bl1br did with Worldle when it first got popular.
Curious how the measurable information entropy changes with guesses across these different types of games... I have a feeling that while Wordle can get to a point where you're stuck with even guesses, I doubt it would happen as often as with this Pokle game.
Not sure if it's frequency bias, but when did the perceived "Poker == Texas Holdem" happen? I remember when I was learning about Poker as a kid/teenager in Europe I didn't hear about that variant, then I didn't play for a bit and suddenly there's only Texas Holdem.
I certainly can't speak in general but I noticed it enter my circles of friends when the World Poker Tour and Celebrity Poker Showdown games started on TV ~2003. Around that time it seemed like everyone I knew was suddenly interested in Texas Hold'em (before that I had basically only ever played 5-card draw).
My guess would be during the US poker boom around 2003ish. Texas Hold Em had for quite a while been the variant of poker used by the largest tournaments, and during that boom a lot more people learned about competitive poker and started playing it online.
As for why Texas Holdem is the most popular variant for betting poker, it’s a variant that is not too complex, offers a lot of opportunities to infer information about other player’s hands due to minimal private information compared to other variants, and has multiple opportunities for betting. It works well from both a competitive and watchability stand point.
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Edit; also the layout is breaking my brain. Each pair of hole cards side by side like every poker website, book, or broadcast would be 50x better
Also also… don’t like the 2 step since it doesn’t make clear which cards already e its in the hand, and you’re already at 24 buttons… 46 wouldn’t be that much more, even
I would perhaps word it as "guess the flop, turn, and river of the game" - not "guess the 5 cards"
good job!
Edit: this was only mentioned by the author in an HN comment (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33728208), so it might still be work in progress - works for me however ;)
Looking at the javascript, the author is obviously very new to web development, so probably a bug on their side.
Edit: yeah, a bug on the backend as I suspected.
There’s also a huge difference between iPhone and iPad here. iPad puts the share/tab buttons in the main top bar, and page content goes all the way to the bottom of the screen. (Disclaimer: kickstand case so I’m in landscape.)
On iPhone there is a dedicated bar for those below the content, so it doesn’t affect the UI, as the home bar goes below THAT.
Fun game. Let's see if I keep coming back like wordle and quordle.
I don't really know how to change the rules to compensate for this, but it feels like these 'unrelated' cards ruin the game in a way.
This makes it significantly easier. Got it in 3, could have gotten it in 2 except I had a 50/50 on the suit of the last card and I picked the wrong 50.
Rules page 2
To rephrase slightly for my brain: Every card in the solution will be used in at least one player's hand.
It might have been nice if there were an annotated example game.
BTW, that makes the game less realistic and interesting Poker-wise, IMHO.
[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33770866
Maybe a bit basic though, adding a texas holdem flop-river reveal could have made it more interesting
Why is red/green such a common color palette? One in twelve men is colorblind. (Interestingly the rate is 1 in 200 in women.)
Red is considered a very lucky color in China.
Hence the emoji for chart increasing being mostly drawn as a red line
https://emojipedia.org/chart-increasing/
From the link at your link, yes, negative is green in Japan.
https://blog.emojipedia.org/why-does-the-chart-increasing-em...
I was told this is because the responsible gene is on the X chromosome, so having two X reduces considerably the odds of having 2 failing ones.
https://mahjong-handle.update.sh/
Another thing is to accept any answer that would explain the bronze/silver/gold.
Or what would be cool is take WSOP actual games, show the action and the cards, and you guess the flop/turn/river.
Then all you would ever need is one guess.
I almost wish there were kickers. Maybe modify it to no kickers in the turn or river.
“No random kickers on the board - The rank of each board card will alway be a part of at least one player's hand in at least one phase. Note: "part of a hand" means the significant card(s) in: Pair, Two Pair, Three of a Kind or Four of a Kind (not kickers) TLDR: You may have to guess a card's suit with no clues, but not it's rank”
I like it, and would be interested to see some entropy analysis like what 3bl1br did with Worldle when it first got popular.
Curious how the measurable information entropy changes with guesses across these different types of games... I have a feeling that while Wordle can get to a point where you're stuck with even guesses, I doubt it would happen as often as with this Pokle game.
Exact same.
I will be interested to see how other puzzles compare.
https://duotrigordle.com/# https://colordle.com/ https://dontwordle.com/ https://jonesnxt.github.io/kilordle/
The only one of these I play religiously is duotrigordle.
As for why Texas Holdem is the most popular variant for betting poker, it’s a variant that is not too complex, offers a lot of opportunities to infer information about other player’s hands due to minimal private information compared to other variants, and has multiple opportunities for betting. It works well from both a competitive and watchability stand point.