It reminds me how legitimate comments get more downvotes and flags than constructive replies on HN. It's a really irritating and toxic pattern than makes you think twice before engaging on a conversation if you don't have the popular opinion.
Sometimes you can even see a downvoted comments gain more upvotes as more users discuss and detail each perspective
It means that a lot of users just downvote without considering the issue from a new perspective :
As OP's link explains, YOU are right, and others ppl can't have a legitimate different opinion : you do constructive feedback by striking them, and they're wrong.
It also reminds me how I was once banned from a Discord group of engineering students, for contradicting some California boy.
I was being shocked that some tech companies in the USA needed to write and advertise that they were inclusive. We saw a website of a financial consulting company that explicited on their home page that could hire and promote even whom they call LGBT ppl, handicapped, "communities" (with a picture of someone to illustrate the community category), or women
From a European perspective, I was shocked it had to be written. Because you hire whoever does the job well, no matter what is their private life.
If the candidate has the skillset, that's enough.
But for him I was just racist and not supportive and "he was not here to teach me about women" (his words), for not supporting companies that write this. Then he banned me.
I didn't even try to create an alt to join back this server. And I admit that we could have had an equally constructive discussion about Americans, at work, the next day, which is often nice.
> From a European perspective, I was shocked it had to be written.
Not really related to your point, but where in Europe do you come from? In France it is common to have job listings read that they hire handicapped people or women, so I don't see why that would be shocking.
Thanks, this reply would have been a/the relevant and kind input for the discussion.
Instead of doing just what is described in OP's blog post, because you just know better how companies work, or instead of just downvoting and flagging
I like that post.
Indeed, some professionals are constructive professionals, and use facts or actual knowledge.
Some others are just shooting at others when they have nothing more but their confidence (they're pretty close to conmen when they pretend to have the truth, imo)
Factualism is something that could be highlighted, because it's great in discussions, and everyone grows from them.
I would have added it to the article !
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It means that a lot of users just downvote without considering the issue from a new perspective : As OP's link explains, YOU are right, and others ppl can't have a legitimate different opinion : you do constructive feedback by striking them, and they're wrong.
I was being shocked that some tech companies in the USA needed to write and advertise that they were inclusive. We saw a website of a financial consulting company that explicited on their home page that could hire and promote even whom they call LGBT ppl, handicapped, "communities" (with a picture of someone to illustrate the community category), or women
From a European perspective, I was shocked it had to be written. Because you hire whoever does the job well, no matter what is their private life. If the candidate has the skillset, that's enough. But for him I was just racist and not supportive and "he was not here to teach me about women" (his words), for not supporting companies that write this. Then he banned me.
I didn't even try to create an alt to join back this server. And I admit that we could have had an equally constructive discussion about Americans, at work, the next day, which is often nice.
Not really related to your point, but where in Europe do you come from? In France it is common to have job listings read that they hire handicapped people or women, so I don't see why that would be shocking.
Instead of doing just what is described in OP's blog post, because you just know better how companies work, or instead of just downvoting and flagging
I like that post. Indeed, some professionals are constructive professionals, and use facts or actual knowledge. Some others are just shooting at others when they have nothing more but their confidence (they're pretty close to conmen when they pretend to have the truth, imo)
Factualism is something that could be highlighted, because it's great in discussions, and everyone grows from them. I would have added it to the article !