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That reminds me of Godwin's Law: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law
Why does it remind you of that and why was I flagged for citing my argument? I’m sorry if being succinct appears rude but your nonsensical reply under a flag gives me an unwelcome and uneasy feeling.
I upvoted your comment and they remind me of each other because they are both internet "axioms" of behavior. Sorry for any confusion!
It is a nice read about Qatar and covers diverse topics. What I found interesting cause I did not know is that there is such a thing as islamic economics, which is trying to avoid the inequality between creditors and debtors and also derivatives and gambling:

> So the obvious way of doing this is simply various types of share participation where rather than making a loan, a bank takes a stake and then the person receiving the money from the bank has the option of buying the bank out progressively like it’s essentially an equity-stake type model.

Would that work in the west?

The former worked for much of Western history in the form of church injunctions against the sin of usury.
the most interesting bit for me was that by outsourcing civil society to foreign "mercenaries", it was essentially easier for the regime to maintain power.

> And that pattern is completely normal in these states. It’s easy to think of it as kind of mercenary in some sense. And that’s not, I think, a false analogy. And it creates a variety of different sorts of conflicts in a sense but also advantages because one of the things that this means is that you don’t get the buildup in many of the Gulf states of civil society in the form that we understand it. You don’t get the uppity lawyers, the difficult journalists. That is contained by the fact that the vast majority of the people in those kinds of positions don’t have citizenship rights. So for the point of view of the stability of the regime, it actually has an upside. You might say they are less loyal, but they’re also more disposable. This is part of the mercenary model, and we should take the mercenary analogy seriously because it’s really in the military that is most pronounced.

I will never understand why oil rich Arab countries build massive glass greenhouses(skyscrapers). Can you imagine how beautiful some of the cities could have if instead of spending trillions on these generic tall skyscrapers that they built their cities in traditional Arab architecture? It would be a sight to behold.
I was just in Dubai and was impressed by the Sheikh Zayed Grand Mosque and disappointed by the lack of their unique culture in so many other aspects of their city.
This is one of the reasons that New Mexico is so beautiful. Many of the buildings are built in traditional Adobe architecture, even big ones, and they just seem to blend into the landscape beautifully. I agree, they should have gone thr traditional route, not glass skyscrapers.
Iconoclasm is one of the early precepts of Islam, especially the Wahhabi doctrines pushed by Saudi Arabia.

This is why the Saudis destroy old buildings and are building a giant ugly clocktower hotel in Mecca.

Buildings that are too iconic, even "earlier gen Arab buildings designed to diminish iconography" can become too iconic in their own right.

Generic glass skyscrapers are totally fine (for now).

This is a somewhat ignorant (though I don't think bad faith) comment.

Muslims historically (and now too) took great pride and put great effort into architecture and calligraphy. Gulf Arab leaders are idiotic noveaux riche on steroids, and the only thing their building plans have to do with Islam is that they evoke Islamic eschatology, which predicts that towards the end of times, "shepherds will compete to build black towers" or something like that.

The "age of combustion" is very quickly coming to a close. The middle east will see a very different economic landscape and, is in fact, already seeing it with constant shrinking of the enterprise value of fossil fuel producers.

Will the middle east be able to turn their current mountains of cash in to a functioning economy without oil? My guess is no, primarily because their current cultures are not well adapted to thriving in a complex economy with many human resources that can't just be pumped out of the ground.

It will take extraordinary leadership for any of the gulf states be successful post combustion. Oman though, is a model that might make it and lead others. But it's not the way to bet.