fwiw I have never met a native English speaker who says "num-pee". Although -py = "pee" for most English words, this random made-up proper noun is yet again another weird English exception...
It's two abbreviations joined together Num- and Py- so they keep their pronunciation. You'd have to ask why is Python pronounced as "pai"? Another example with similar pronunciation is Pythagoras. That's a less easy question to answer due to words like pyramid, pygmy that start with a reduced i sound (sorry can't type IPA on my phone).
When you have a consonant and a Y, it's generally quite common for that Y to make an "ai" sound. Like bylaw, dynamo, kyle, lying, rye, xylophone. So I'd say that Python's pronunciation is unexceptional.
In the case of pyramid, it comes from French pyramide so it follows the pronunciation of French. It's worth noting that both pyramid and pygmy have alternate/misspellings that use "pi" which shows that their spelling as "py" is not very natural to native speakers.
Don't they? I always used that rule and pronounced it as in REGular EXpression. Do people say it differently? Like a soft g and long e like in "regent"?
It is easier to make the "j" said for "rejex". The "g" sound is more effortful (it is "made" more in the back of the mouth, compared to "j"). Laziness wins the day again on pronunciation xD
I would pronounce it “regular expression.” I can see shortening it in text, it is a lot of letters, but reg-eks seems only marginally shorter than “regular expression” and the latter has normal, easy flowing words without weird stop in the middle. “Reglr spression” “Regula espressen.”
Interesting. Both python and pyramid most likely come from Latin though, and in both Latin and French the "py" python is pronounced the same as the "py" in pyramid. So there must be more to it.
Checked MySQL and i see almost everyone pronounces it as My Sequel. Well, with the exception of Marten Mickos, who was the CEO of MySQL before same was acquired by Sun Microsystems. I guess, this would be another tomato, tomahto.
I first read numpy all in lower case as imports and pronounced it num-pee, rhyming with “this road is bumpy.”
I am frequently stupidly oblivious, so the first time I noticed the docs spelling it “NumPy” I thought that an odd spelling for a package called num-pee.
Only when I heard it in a presentation did it all click and I laughed at my misunderstanding.
I now attempt to say “num-pie” but frequently mispronounce in error.
> "There are also a large number of new and
expired deprecations due to changes in promotion and cleanups. This
might be called a deprecation release."
The release notes themselves describe what the deprecations are but do not speak much to the reasons that are driving them in the overall lifecycle of this software.
Would anyone kindly shed some light on the intentions behind these deprecations?
Has anyone noticed numpy running slower on Windows vs. Linux given the same hardware? I would have expected similar performance, but it seems like on my setup the same python runs about 20-30% faster on linux, all other things being equal.
It could be something clever like maybe gcc uses a better allocator or maybe you have better, I dunno, OpenMP libraries on Linux (or whatever the C++ equivalent is)
On the other hand, when I boot into Windows for games, it always surprises me how much CPU Windows uses just… sitting there, doing nothing.
Windows has a hard time "getting out of the way" and this extends all the way down to core numerical routines. Have you ever tried installing CUDA drivers on Windows without WSL?
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[ 2.9 ms ] story [ 78.1 ms ] threadHowever, it does not surprise/bother me if someone goes for "num-pie".
I mean the Py comes from python where it certainly sounds more like pie.
The real question then is: How would the file ending .py be pronounced?
When you have a consonant and a Y, it's generally quite common for that Y to make an "ai" sound. Like bylaw, dynamo, kyle, lying, rye, xylophone. So I'd say that Python's pronunciation is unexceptional.
In the case of pyramid, it comes from French pyramide so it follows the pronunciation of French. It's worth noting that both pyramid and pygmy have alternate/misspellings that use "pi" which shows that their spelling as "py" is not very natural to native speakers.
209 video clips with searchable transcripts use "NumPy": https://youglish.com/pronounce/NumPy/english?
Out of the first 16 clips I checked (which contain a few duplicate speakers), all say "num-pie".
Next, "sqlite": https://youglish.com/pronounce/sqlite/english?
15 for "sequel-light", 1 for "S-Q-L-light". 430 left to check.
I recently learned YouGlish also supports other languages!
Here's how French people say "Python" - https://youglish.com/pronounce/python/french?
For a word that blew my mind when I first saw it, here are 68 clips of the German word "Höchstgeschwindigkeit": https://youglish.com/pronounce/H%C3%B6chstgeschwindigkeit/ge...? .
They pronounce the "Py" as "pie".
I am frequently stupidly oblivious, so the first time I noticed the docs spelling it “NumPy” I thought that an odd spelling for a package called num-pee.
Only when I heard it in a presentation did it all click and I laughed at my misunderstanding.
I now attempt to say “num-pie” but frequently mispronounce in error.
The release notes themselves describe what the deprecations are but do not speak much to the reasons that are driving them in the overall lifecycle of this software.
Would anyone kindly shed some light on the intentions behind these deprecations?
On the other hand, when I boot into Windows for games, it always surprises me how much CPU Windows uses just… sitting there, doing nothing.
This update breaks Seaborn library. I need to keep numpy on v1.23