Show HN: Pole Clock, a single 24h clock with multiple timezones (poleclock.com)

440 points by PascalPixel ↗ HN
Hi HN! I designed this Pole Clock to be a helpful tool for people like myself who often struggle with managing their sense of time.

I found that analog clocks are generally easier to read and understand than digital ones, however I find the fact that every day is broken into two 12-hour rotations unintuitive. A single 24-hour rotation makes it easier to grasp where in the day you are, the bottom half representing night and the top half representing day.

Additionally, because the clock displays 24 hours, you can add extra hour hands on the clock for other time zones. This is especially useful if you work remotely or have friends and colleagues in different time zones. At a single glance, see where they are in their days and energy levels!

I hope you'll give the Pole Clock a try and find that it helps you better understand and manage your sense of time.

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A suggestion: support merging timezones into a single hand. Currently, if two timezones overlap, only the first TZ is shown. However, one might want two hands as the DST shifts may be different.
Great idea! I could combine the names on a single hand
Something similar (but simpler) I made for my personal use: https://rsapkf.org/tz
week of the year: 53/52 ... perhaps you meant it as a joke?
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It’s possible (with the ISO week calendar) to have a week 53– on years where Jan 1 is on Thursday or Wednesday for leap years.

2022 was not such a year; there appears to be a bug here.

First thing I did was add Newfoundland and nope, it doesn’t add another minute hand.

Time zones are ridiculous, eh?

Haha, yes! But Newfoundland's hour hand should be offset a little bit!
Ah yes that too. A classic edge case to add frustrating complexity to your implementation! :)
Always fun! It does the same for every other offset timezone, and seen from that timezone, everything else is slightly offset :)
How about an option to show the digital clock on the hand. Engineer in me is not satisfied with lack of precision.
It was a mindfuck to see AM/PM clock when the title read 24h.
I've changed it back to 24h by default just now

You can change between AM/PM and 24h in the 'Configure Timezones' menu!

Cute ^^.

I see there's a Statue of Liberty icon for NY, it'd be nice to have icons for other cities :).

You can change it yourself in the settings
Put this on YouTube: video can be easily linked/embedded
the city with picture arm is not readable on mobile, you need to zoom to know the actual city, it would be better to just use name instead of such small picture

also quite odd default choice of cities, so I have own European city, London, then 3 East Asia cities and 2 US cities with nothing between central Europe and Thailand, no middle east, no India

it would be also better if every other hour would be bigger so it's easier to figure out minutes, with all of them having same size it's confusing and more difficult to read as if they had highlighted positions of original hours

Enticing you to configure the timezones yourself, ehhh? Ehhh? wiggles eyebrows
Excellent. You can see at a glance which of the cities are in right now in day light and where's night.
Right? A 'good enough' solution / update to the regular clock, I felt! :)
Not precisely though since in different places, the sun goes up/under at different times.

An interesting thing could be if the small hands had a color that indicates the night/day/dusk/dawn

I've always found it quite weird (though obviously convenient) that Warsaw and Madrid are on the same time zone
They are not. It is 17:25 in Warsaw now, 16:25 in Dublin.
Oops, not sure what city I was thinking of when I wrote Dublin

My point is that CET feels rather wide to me, so I guess substitute for Sevilla or Madrid

Why not abbreviate New York as NY instead of New? Why also use a statue of liberty emoji for eastern standard time instead of EST or NY?
You can configure the name to display whatever you like :)
Actually, you can’t if you are in that time zone. If I have my local device in a different time zone, then yes, I can set the name.
Oh, right! I should actually just delete the display of the local time zone... done!
Shouldn't there be two minute hands if you add LA and India (PST and IST)? The minutes are offset by 30 mins in this scenario.
You can see this by the position of the hour hands. The minute hand is “just” a convenience.
Another one for Nepal, they have an offset of 45 mins.
Came here looking for a comment suggesting these discrepancies. I was not disappointed.

See also: “Falsehoods programmers believe about time”

https://infiniteundo.com/post/25326999628/falsehoods-program...

Hey meaniehead... I added offsets to the hour hands for +30 and +45 timezones!
Can anyone recommend a book that discusses in depth all the peculiarities of timekeeping, time zones, historical efforts for measuring time, etc.? I would love to read something like that and I feel that there are many stories to be told.
Also, Newfoundland and Labrador (GMT -3:30)
It appears the minute hand only reflects local time.

When I add time zones with fractional-hour offsets, the hour hand for those zones is at the appropriate angle within the indicated hour.

Two ideas to consider adding to this cool concept:

1. Could there be an option to place 00:00 at the top instead of the bottom? It looks like both positions have been used for analog 24 hour clocks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24-hour_analog_dial

2. Could there be an option to set the background to be a polar-projected world map (e.g. United Nations emblem) that rotates to align with the turning of the hour hands?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azimuthal_equidistant_projecti...

> 1. Could there be an option to place 00:00 at the top instead of the bottom?

I wear a 24 hour analogue dial wrist watch, with 24 on top. I'll admit, I sometimes wish I had chosen 12 on top, since it's more naturally to look at the watch during the day, and less so during the night. Since it more naturally follows - on quick visual inspection - what it would look like on a normal 12 hour analogue dial.

Sounds cool, would you care to link the make/model?
There are quite of a few of those about, I have a Vostok 24 hour watch and it's a nice conversational piece.

Rateka also makes a well-regarded 24 hour dial.

Both easily available for €100 or so, though only the vostoks are automatic.

Great ideas! I've added both! Find them in Settings! Enjoy!
Seems that the World Map is "fixed" and does not rotate to keep it aligned with the hands (expectation is that New York hand should roughly point to New York on the map)?
Could you add the share link? So that if I share the URL with a friend or family,they get exactly my configuration of cities from URL. Maybe the cities can be embedded in URL as GET parameters.
I can add it for sure! It's just a bit more technically involved so maybe next year!
The minute-hand seems to be buggy. It seems to take its 0 as top even though the 0 for hours is at bottom. So when I choose midnight-on-top option, it flips and 00:45 time shows the minute-hand in due-east which is completely wrong.

Would also love to see an option to highlight working hours (9am to 5pm?). Those are important markers for most individuals.

Another consideration might be to switch 24 to 0 or 00. I've seen a lot of 24 hour clocks that use 24 and I'm not sure why this ever happened since there is no time in hour 24. 12:15 AM/PM is a real thing for a 12-hour clock, but 24:15 isn't, as far as I'm aware. Unless some people consider that to be the very first hour of the day, but that seems like it would invite more confusion.
Tangently related, but working timetables on the London Underground run to 2330, 2345, 2359, but then rather than going to 0000, because the post midnight services (until about 0400) are on the previous date, they then go

2359

2400

2401

And on to 2459, 2500, 2501 etc.

(At least they used to before 24 hour running, not sure about now)

23:59, 1:00:00, 1:00:01 would have been better.
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The latter two could be confused with hour:minute:second
I saw this often in open/close times on bars in Japan in my trip there a couple weeks ago. I saw as high as 28:00
I've just added a setting for midnight to be 0 instead of 24, have a look
I used to work with a delivery route planning system that had 24:00 as midnight on one day, and 00:00 was midnight on the following day — the same “instant” but on two different days.

I forget the reasoning, but I remember it being described to me as both necessary and a reasonably common construct.

24:00 is a real time. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24-hour_clock#Midnight_00:00_a...

> there is no time in hour 24

Doesn't matter. 24 marks the end of the day.

One advantage of using 24 instead of 0 is it makes it immediately obvious that this is a 24 hour clock. Otherwise you have to read the 0, see the 23 next to it, and infer that it's 24 hours, which takes a moment if you are not expecting it.

It would be nice to have a permalink to a version with my customized list of time zones. I imagine it would be useful to send it for recurring meetings with the same set of persons.
I tend to use worldtimebuddy.com as a very practical way of representing timezones when scheduling things.

As cool as this pole clock is, it's not as useful to my mind as the more linear representation worldtimebuddy.com uses.

This would indeed be great to have... Then it's also easier to adopt the thing for team! Good idea!
This is great! Now I wish there was a wristwatch (Apple Watch face?) that could do this as well.
Slick design. Love that it doesn't try to do a million things. I think this would be really nice as a smartwatch face or an iPhone widget.
Wowzers I love these one-hand 'slow' watches! https://svalbard.watch/pages/Svalbard_24-hour_watches.html

I hope I can get Pole Clock on Apple Watch, wish they allowed custom watch faces!

There are two options - the Solar and World Time faces are 24h
> Apple Watch, wish they allowed custom watch faces!

Seriously? Apple does not allow this?

It shouldn't be surprising, that's very typical of Apple.
I guess it depends what you mean by "custom watch faces" but I've got 12[1] things that show different variations of clocks and widgets installed on my Watch and the Watch app offers a few more[2].

[1] Activity Digital, Solar Graph, Modular, Infograph, Modular Compact, Liquid Metal, Solar Dial, Unity Lights, Gradient, Pride Woven, World Time, Pride Threads.

[2] https://imgur.com/a/A9u4EYr

All too complex, just want 24h analog :'(
They do not and I've been wanting a 24h analog dial on mine with nothing else for years... Pole Clock's timezone hour hands would be a bonus though!
Oh, those backward watches brings back memories. My dad used to have a big one in his bar, and as a prank tell customers looking at it that they're perhaps too drunk to get another drink.

He got me one when I moved out, and I've had it ever since. For some time it was actually hard for me to tell time looking at a normal analog clock.

Due to relatives scattered around the world, I track the time in several time zones for the last 20 years or so.

Nothing comes close to the convenience of an Apple Watch.

First, you can add custom cities to your Apple Watch, so you can see the time in e.g. Dortmund (which has my relative) as opposed to Frankfurt (which is a big city that happens to define the time zone but has no relatives). With mechanical watches, you are limited to a selection of cities that might or might not be relevant to you.

Second, the DST renders any mechanical watch incorrect for at least half a year. One of my relatives is in Brazil, where they have DST in their summer (Dec-Feb), so mechanical watches are incorrect for almost a year (except for a couple of weeks around the DST shift). Again, Moscow has moved permanently to summer time. Apple Watch has all this covered.

Third, most GMT watches with 24-hour hand have a "night/day" bezel (black-grey aka "Batman", or blue-red aka "Pepsi"), but they all separate 24 hours into a 12-hour period of "day" (6am-6pm) and "night" (6pm-6am). Apple Watch shows the actual daylight and night time at any day of the week (so the "bezel" is split unevenly).

Mechanical watches are good at many things but being able to reliably track several DST-observing timezones is not one of them. In this, nothing even comes close to the convenience of an Apple Watch.

And a good brand for single-hand watches: http://meistersinger.com/
I may have missed it, but it does not look like Meister Singer makes a version with a 24h dial, is that correct?

I think that would be the main draw of a single hand watch for me.

I like "Yes" watches: https://www.yeswatch.com

They use an LCD backdrop behind the physical hour hand to show exactly when sunrise and sunset is for today, rather than a fixed 6-6 shadow. Really nice idea.

Someone could create a Fitbit clock to do this too!
Very nice. I've wanted something simple like this. I work with team distributed all over the globe and often end up googling "time in Minsk", for example. This is a really clever way of combining all the times into a single clock.