Ask HN: What are some of your “buy it for life” purchases?

73 points by eiiot ↗ HN
A while ago someone asked about best purchases under $200, and it made me wonder what items people have gotten the most use out of. What are some of your favorite items that are made to last?

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A good knife.

Pans which never go in the dishwasher.

A decent glass water jug which fits on the refrigerator door.

A small toolkit of decently made screwdrivers.

A reasonably simple Victorinox Swiss army knife.

At least one raspberry pi.

A strong "U" kryptonite style bicycle lock.

Glasses cleaning cloth. 15 years going strong.

A digital alarm clock you can adjust the brightness on. I went Sony, it uses DVB-T signals to get time.

RM Williams boots. Look good with jeans or suit. Repairable, and built to very high standards. Only need one pair. Highly recommend.
Not really "for life" (in that sense anyway), but I missed the first thread so I'll put it here, with apologies.

After a lot of research, for Christmas 2020 I got a few "Airpro" masks[1] ($40-50). In short, it's a wearable HEPA filter that pumps filtered air into any standard N95 or KN95 mask.

In theory this gives better filtration (both from higher efficiency and positive pressure), but mainly I love it because it eliminates hot mask face.

My original unit is still going strong. I'm pretty careful, but it's still had numerous drops.

Tips after >2 years of use:

* I always use it on high, unless the battery is low.

* I bring my own N95 masks that I prefer, the (sadly discontinued) Harbor Freight N95s. Choose one you like. I change it about once a month.

* I (gasp!) convert my head straps to ear loops. Much easier to eat that way: open, shovel, close.

* The design is made to accommodate a carbon pre-filter, so I just cut rectangular prefilters out of standard surgical masks. Changed monthly, I still haven't needed to replace the original HEPA filter.

* Be sure to check out the review from "TX gadget nut" for how to seal the internal leak paths.[2] I potted the entire board with food-grade caulk, since I noted small through-holes in the PCB.

* To protect the silicone hose from strain, I hang the unit sideways using the lanyard.

* If you're really obsessive (guess how I know...), you can use a small file to remove the mold lines inside the outlet port, slightly reducing the pressure drop.

* As with any mask, it's important to perform hand hygiene before and after touching or adjusting it. A dollar store conical spray bottle and rubbing alcohol works fine.

* It's surprisingly nice to completely avoid wood smoke and diesel exhaust. I didn't realize how ubiquitous it was until I had the option to not breathe it in.

Fingers crossed, but so far it's been very effective and comfortable. All told I estimate it's about 15¢/day.

I'm ordering a couple spares, since I never know when a product I like will get discontinued...

(not exactly BIFL given the consumables, but before this I went through an N95 per week so I'm still ahead)

[1] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07YWLBVF2/

[2] https://www.amazon.com/portal/customer-reviews/media-gallery...

Wozniak was just on Steve-O’s Wild Ride promoting this (it was one of his show and tell items)
If Woz likes it, must be doing something right...

Found it: https://youtu.be/CRi8r0XQFHU?t=5402

As always, a great sense of humor. I saw him speak shortly after the Intel Mac release, and got him to sign my computer "Woz Inside." Inaccurate, but he was a good sport about the joke!

when do you wear this?
Indoor public spaces, and sometimes outside during bad air. With ~zero hedonic disincentive, it's easy to wear whenever I feel the need.

I get about one inquiry a month, usually at the store. People seem to like it, especially when I mention the comfort.

Do you live somewhere where the air is particularily bad?
I'm very fortunate! Mostly good, except when neighbors fire up woodstoves or fire pits.
Are you on constant immunosuppressants or why do you wear this all the time?
At-risk family members, long COVID uncertainty, and no real downside. Easy choice.
Do you plan on wearing a mask for the rest of your life?
By that you mean in public indoor spaces.

"Don't you want to kill your family members?" No, not really. Just my personal choice.

A comfortable mask isn't some great burden to me. The whole line of questioning feels strange, like someone incredulously saying "Do you plan on wearing pants for the rest of your life??"

I find it’s actually pretty good to compare it to sun protection. Kids used to run around in the sun without sunscreen, still can in some places/times to a certain amount… but we collectively sort of realised the risks and so most people (at least in Australia) use sunscreen to avoid the easiest cancer to avoid, Melanoma. There are people who have a natural immunity of sorts due to darker skin and melanin concentrations, there are people that deliberately expose themselves for perceived benefits like “getting a tan” because “it looks healthy” and there are older people who got lucky and ran around unprotected who think it’s a rip off by big sunscreen and don’t see the point while also no longer needing it due to age and lifestyle changes out of lots of direct UV exposure.
Heaven only knows how humanity survived for 100,000 years while breathing air unmasked.
I mean I very much understand the other commenter line of questioning but any questions related to mask wearing will be highly dependent of where you are from.

I’m from Western Europe and mask wearing both never was political, was well followed during the much more stringent restrictions we had at the peak of the epidemic and has virtually disappeared from the past two years.

It’s a very different attitude that what it seems to be in the state but our relationship with diseases is already culturally extremely different than what it is in the USA.

A mask cannot be more comfortable than no-mask unless you're in some very cold environment. Suggesting that a mask in 2022 has anywhere near the utility of pants is off by orders of magnitude.
I'd honestly rather not wear pants for the rest of my life than go back to wearing a mask every day.
I think you’ve invented a new kind of porn
>A mask cannot be more comfortable than no-mask

As you may note, that's not what I said.

> Suggesting that a mask in 2022 has anywhere near the utility of pants

Didn't say that either.

It's simply strange to me that people get so worked up over it, just like it would be strange if people got super worked up over wearing pants.

In my experience, absent of the 'hot/stuffy mask face' it's no big deal. YMMV

Its a political statement/dogtag for them.
maybe even virtue signaling.
> Its a political statement/dogtag for them.

> maybe even virtue signaling

Or maybe even, as they said quite plainly, "at-risk family members".

Personally I wouldn't wear a mask any more; as others have said I think there comes a time where unless there's a specific heightened risk you have to accept that you either stop at some point or wear one for the rest of your life.

That said, I have immediate family who are extremely immuno-suppressed. I either wear a mask, or every day I increase the risk of killing them. So I wear a mask.

Sometimes the argument is pointless. The "other side" may even agree with you. Yet life often makes a mockery of our choices and forces behaviours upon us.

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Do your at-risk family members have the same strict mask adherence as you?

I ask because this very much applies to me. I have very at risk family members and if by wearing a mask daily I make them 1% less likely to die, that's worth it to me. But these family members themselves have stopped wearing masks... That doesn't mean my masking will do nothing, but when they're not even trying I find it hard to justify.

I had one, then switched to an Ultramasx, riding the bus for hours a day in peak covid without issues.

That company went out of business as far as I can tell though, so it will be back to the Airpro when I run out of filters, if I can find it.

You do know that masks do nothing. There are no studies proving it’s effectiveness. And there are studies w negative effects (teeth, jaw issues, sinus infections)

Well, in india the purple masks were more effective than the red ones;)

Good on you mate for keeping yourself and your loved ones safe !

I must say I admire your ability to keep cool when the minimizers creep out of the woodwork.

Fiskars scissors. Never seen broken ones.
I was going to say a pair of quality scissors. Someone gave me a nice pair for Christmas when I was a teenager. At the time, I was thoroughly unimpressed with the boring gift, but 40-odd years later it's still in my desk and regularly used when most other things of my youth are long gone. A related, and cheaper, thing that becomes very handy once you are accustomed to having it at hand is a portable paper trimmer. (https://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Craft-Paper-Trimmer-Inch...)
Along the same line: a good stapler. Just like Milton from Office Space, a proper metal Swingline stapler has been the best in my experience. Unlike that movie, I never found a red one that was as good as a black one.

I still have it over 30 years later, although my need to staple these days is exceedingly rare.

I once cut through a live mains electricity cable with a pair of Fiskars scissors. They blades had holes burned into them, and were very blackened!

I posted an image to twitter and received sympathy from Fiskars but no other comment. I had to go and buy another pair - orange handled, for left-handed people.

(Was obviously not intentional, but I guess the insulated handles helped save me!)

I am not sure I have much stuff that will last an actual life time. Maybe various optics like binoculars, etc. But that is rather niche.

For stuff that most everyone can use, I would mention cast iron cookware. I have cast iron skillets and pots that I have used for over two decades that I expect to last me many years still. And I use them all the time. The brand name is not very important although you probably want to avoid the very cheapest.

Next, I would say good quality knives. Both for use in the kitchen as well as in the forest, on hikes, etc. For Chef's knives, I think F. Dick makes decent ones that last very long for home use. And for forest use, I would recommend LionSteel.

I have a Revere Ware 12 qt Stock Pot I bought 35+ years ago. The spot welds on one side of the handle of the lid have come undone. I'm going to ask my buddy with a TIG spot welder to fix it up for me and then will hand it down to my daughter some day.

Has made more pots of chili, chicken soup, bone broth and pasta than I can count.

Other items not nearly as old: Le Creuset 5qt Dutch Oven, Lodge 10", 12" and 6" Cast Iron Skillets, and an old Griswold 8" which I really like because it is half the thickness of the Lodge, so temp changes more rapidly and it is lighter.

I have a set of Revere Ware I inherited from my grandparents that they received as a wedding gift almost 70 years ago. Great stuff, unfortunately I won't be able to use it once I get an induction range.
Do you have an exhaust hood over your stove?
Yes but nobody else in my family who used this cookware had ventilation.
Asolo hiking boots. I had a pair for more than 10 years now. They appear very fatigued from the outside, but don’t show any structural issues. I don’t think I own any other clothing item that gets at least semi-regular usage that lasted this long.
Hasn't the outsole (the underside of the shoe) worn off?

It gets completely flat on my hiking shoes after a year or two, leading to notably reduced grip, and that's the main reason I have to replace them once in a while. But mine are medium priced, so I am wondering if higher priced shoes like yours last longer.

They’re very visibly worn, but still retain some of the grippy shape. I think that might mostly depend on the soil and rocks you’re hiking on. I visited volcanic regions a couple of times and got the sense that it’s much harsher on the soles. My area is mostly full of limestone, which is rather soft.
If it’s high end hiking boots it can be worth changing soles if they are too worn. Probably not worth the price for lower priced shoes unless you really want to keep them. I have a pair of Swedish made Lundhags, and I think they charge 75$ for changing the soles.
Good boots can have their outsoles replaced by a cobbler. I bought Merell Wilderness boots with the intention of doing that but scuffed the toes so badly that I'm not sure I will bother. They're also the heaviest boot I've worn, adding effort to high difficulty mountain hikes. They were in the expensive category.
I had some I bought about 10 years ago, but did not use for 8 years. The sole completely de-laminated and fell off on a hike. Turns out not wearing them can lead to that
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My wife and I owned several pairs of Asolo hiking boots and all of them opened at points adhesed together. I do not buy Asolo anymore.
Good silverware.

I'm probably going to use that fork/knife/spoon until the day I fucking die, so I might as well make sure it's damn good.

This is the biggest and most succesfull marketing trick from the last few generations.

The truth is that any metal cutlery will outlive you, regardless of the price.

And metal cutlery is also very cheap to produce, a full set should cost less than $20, and will last a lifetime.

Yes but cutlery that actually feels good in the hand, has proper sizing (fork length, spoon capacity) and also proper weight balancing is much harder to find. Personally I really like Oneida, I found a set with spoons that IMO have the perfect balance and capacity.
Not that hard, IKEA sells terrific stuff. Pleasant to look at, solid weight, no unnecessary ornaments.
I disagree profusely, IKEA cutlery is horrible. The fork tips are dull, the spoons are too shallow and too big, the spoon soup is completely the wrong shape, the handles are extremely unergonomic, the weight is not solid at all, they look and feel cheap, and they are ugly.
I know which ones you’re talking about, and I agree about them. They’re called 365+. While these seem to be the most popular, there are others which are shaped for better ergonomics and utility.
They change over time. My absolute favorite fork is from ikea. Our other forks cost 3x as much but I like the ikea one better. Sadly I’ve never been able to find that set there again (bought it 20+ years ago)
IKEA sells a wide variety of cutlery. Some of them are flimsy, some are extremely good for the price. But overall, I’m with OP on this one: you can indeed find good looking and nice to use cutlery at IKEA for a bargain.
By "good" I mean something I will like using every day, the price doesn't really matter. A tool that just feels bad to use is not a good tool, especially if it's something I'll use multiple times every day.
I moved house a couple of years ago, and decided to finally get matching cutlery for six people.

In the past I had enough for myself and two friends, after that it was all mismatched knives, forks and spoons which were randomly acquired over the years - Although I had a couple of butter-knives I'd had since I moved out of my parents home 30 years ago!

Having matching cutlery, that felt good in the hands, makes a surprising difference to mealtimes. I didn't even spend more than €100, though I took a long time handling and testing different designs before I found one that I liked.

This should be true but is definitely not. I’ve had cheap metal cutlery that was flimsy and bendable, multiple sets that literally rusted, and I don’t want to know what kind of metals were leaching from it.

Now I buy stainless from liberty tabletop, literally the last remaining stainless steel tableware manufacturer in existence in the us. It’s not that expensive and much better quality.

Anything from Patagonia.

And proper chopsticks.

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I wish I could say the same about Patagonia, but I’ve patched one elbow hole in my flannel and need to patch the other. I wear it almost every day, but I’ve only had it four years.
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Feels like a bit of a cheat answer but... my wedding ring.
The guy who made ours said to keep in touch and he'd happily retouch every decade or so. However, we seem to do enough with our hands that the patterning has been doing just fine on its own.
Here's a few BIFL grooming products I've had for years. Royal Golden Birdie nose trimmers. Feather SS straight razor. Feather AS D2 double edge razor.
> Feather AS D2 double edge razor ($200-$400)

Why is this so expensive? My MAG-MR1-V3 was $16.15 and it seems pretty much identical.

It will be almost entirely the same. There is a point of diminishing returns after a certain price point. Higher prices are mostly for enthusiast buyers.
Well, the question was what will last a lifetime. It's all stainless. If you price Maggard all stainless it looks closer to $70. Solid stainless last way longer than other types, which will eventually break, pit, or strip. You can drop this thing repeatedly from 5 feet and... nothing. A lot of people drop Merkurs in the sink and ruin them.

Beyond that, you're paying some for the name, and some for a guarantee it's manufactured perfectly, so to speak. The price here is closer to $150, I definitely wouldn't pay 400 for it.

A leather belt and a dollar store digital alarm clock (bare minimum features but it works more or less perfectly 10 years later).
I bought a plastic water pitcher from a Japanese market. Pretty cheap, maybe $15. It's a bit taller and narrower than most American ones. Has an open/close switch, and can stand up vertically in a fridge door or be laid on its side on a center shelf. No leaks. Very handy.
A good knife sharpener.
Which one?
Bushpro treeplanting shovel. If you use it for treeplanting you'll get five long seasons. Everything else, it'll outlast your grand kids. Great for gardening.
Maybe my Mitutoyo caliper. Unless I step on it or it breaks I don't see a reason to replace it, and it should be able to last a lifetime. Some of the other simple woodworking tools like my marking gauge or steel rule come to mind as well, as they are pretty durable and I don't expect ever replacing them unless they break.

Also, my cast iron skillet. It seems to get better as it ages, so it has a good chance to outlast most other kitchenware I purchased.

Miti's are the best. I have one as well.

I love old woodworking hand tools. I buy them every chance I get. Slowly building my collection of Stanley hand planes. I have a couple of nice Swedish hand saws. Other assorted tools. USA made sockets and wrenches. Really any USA made old tools.

Custom made leather boots. Expensive at around 900 Euros for the pair, but I've had them for 8 years now and they look new. You have to get the sole redone from time to time once it wears down, but the rest of the shoe will last you a good 30-40 years with adequate care.
I would love to learn more about custom leather boots. Do you have a link with more information on where you get this done, etc?
It will depend a bit on where you are located.

I got mine done in a very small shop in Berlin from a Schuhmachermeister. Shes unfortunately not doing shoes anymore. Supposedly there are only around 100 left in all of Germany. I know Florence in Italy also still has quite a few shoemakers.

Its likely a major city close to you still has at least one that still makes shoes. This is something you want to get done in person as they must have the exact measurements of your feet.

Bloomberg did a relatively short video on it a few years back. It explains a bit about the process. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITiyKmYnL-0

Yup. I have inherited a custom pair of leather hiking boots that‘s at least 40 years old and I intend to use them for another 40.

Of course it’s pure luck that these boots fit me perfectly.

I got ~30 years out of a cheap socket set, but the ratchet in the driver finally died. Now I have my father-in-law's expensive socket set, which uses a u-joint instead of a ratchet, so I expect it shall outlive me.
30pcs of Chinese Herb 330 fountain ink pen at $0.27 each.
The prices on those chinese pens are tempting, but I've found many models crack at the screw threads between top and bottom sections - the plastic is obviously thinner there, and usually just too thin, and barely last as long as a full refill of ink.

So maybe you'll need much more than 30, or you could buy something actually good for 30x the price.

The keyboard I'm using is about 10 years old. Some keys are a bit loose, but not really an issue, feels very comfortable to use. Keylabels are all still visible, except for the 'i' key. Don't remember the exact price, but it was less than Rs 300 (around $6) at the time. About 2 years back I bought a new keyboard of the same brand, got fed up within a month (frequent mistype of neighboring key) and went back to the old one.

I got the audio speakers too about 10 years back. About double the keyboard price. Warranty was for 6 months.

My average daily computer use is around 10 hours, so it's not like they lasted long due to low usage.

Sometimes a useful heuristic about what items really are durable is, do your parents own anything that you are using / would want to use? (In my own case the answer was: nothing.)
Insightful, thank-you.

Lacking any physical inheritance, I guess memories and ways of thinking--possibly including prejudices--are also durable in a sense.

That made me ponder what I would leave behind to the next generation.

Maybe Thinkpads, an upgradeable router/firewall, a custom AI/ML rig? A homelab? Books for sure. Hopefully some wisdom :)

I have a Unicomp keyboard. It's still going...

Vinyl records. I still have records that are perfectly good which I bought when I first got a record player for my 15th (I think) birthday, 35 years ago now.
I also still have my mum's 7" collection from the sixties.
Furniture. The expensive stuff is pretty durable. A good wooden table might even be used by the next generation.

Books.

A good tea set.

My Fender Stratocaster Ed O'Brien edition. Probably the last electric guitar I'll buy in this lifetime.
Indeed. I bought mine maybe 25 years ago and still play it all the time. I could probably sell it for a lot more than I paid for it, but I’m not going to do that.

I’m trying the same thing with a Les Paul now. I’ll let you know how it goes in 20 years.

That's exactly it, they are all pieces of art regardless of who manufactured them, etc. I'm fairly certain they all appreciate in value, though that's not why I do it.

Guitar playing (as well as, probably any and all other instruments) is just good for the brain.

Guitars in general are a great answer.

I have a 72 Gibson acoustic I bought used. Sounds and plays amazing. I see no reason why it wouldn't be passed on to my kids and grandkids eventually.

I always perceive guitars to be timeless things and there is just something magical about them. I understand that people with greater means and resources will literally accumulate them until the end, but I think I have the right ones. Two steel strings, one nylon string, and two electrics including the aforementioned one.
5 guitars is a lot! I'd consider that well into accumulation territory.