I’m just glad there’s finally enough competition to bring down prices in EVs. If Chevy hits its price target next year for the Equinox I think everyone will start buying them. I sure will.
Just sell me a Miata with 100 miles of range and no weight penalty. I don't want a boat on hard tires; I want something nimble and engaging to, you know, drive. I'll even give up my manual transmission for it.
I guess manufacturers went crazy on range because range anxiety was a legitimate blocker for many people. It's so wasteful. Hopefully as charging networks and charging speeds improve, manufacturers start to release smaller vehicles with lower capacities.
Chevy needs to get their battery fire issues under control. They've had so many recalls and disasters I doubt anyone is going to rush to buy a Chevy ev
I think ultimately the car manufacturer has to take some blame for selling you a car with a faulty component, even if the component came from someone else. I’m not going to become an expert in automotive supply chains and figure out gazillions of different components that must be used to make the car.
Irrelevant. When MS Windows will get BSOD, nobody is going to blame company which wrote crappy device driver writing into protected kernel memory. Microsoft will get the blame.
If you are technical, you will blame and upgrade or remove the bad driver. If you aren’t technical, your technical friend will just tell you to get a Mac.
Spoilers: they won't. Nobody can build enough batteries to meet demand. The capacity still just isn't there. Which means those teaser "esitmated starting around" MSRPs will never be the price someone ends up paying at a dealer for the forseeable future.
And they weigh about 1500 lbs more than the ICE version. This matters if they plan to make bigger versions like F450/550/650. Ranchers already come close to weight limits. Lost range and added weight are a big problem. Maybe some future 3D printed solid state battery will help a little?
Yes to all of the above. I like EVs and am kind of a nerd about them, but realistically it doesn't help the adoption of a technology to push it before it's ready. We just don't have the manufacturing capacity for batteries, they're still quite expensive and finicky (try charging your EV in sub-zero temperatures) and heavy (so no gross capacity limited vehicles like F350 and no sports cars).
It's just like with wind and solar. Why can't we just be honest about what these are good at, use them appropriately, and let the tech develop and improve organically?
Yea it kind of seems like everything is Pascal's wager now. My argument is correct because any alternative is eternal hellfire. And even if my argument isn't very convincing, we should still do it because 0.1% chance of eternal hellfire is still eternal hellfire.
Yea the Equinox (only driven the ICE as a rental) is a decent car that 80% of people would be happy with.
$30k for that would indeed be a very good bargain, and quite a bit cheaper than most EVs. I think most comparable EVs are quite a bit more pricey - ID.4 at $40k base, Mach-E at $45k.
And especially, it'd only be a $3k premium over the base ICE model. Even without subsidies, that's low enough that many people will switch.
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You can't get them below $70k
https://electrek.co/2022/05/31/ford-f-150-lightning-loses-ra...
It's just like with wind and solar. Why can't we just be honest about what these are good at, use them appropriately, and let the tech develop and improve organically?
Arguments often boil down to ”vote for me or the world ends”
An argument that doesn’t allow for any compromise.
Logical or not, honest or not. Sane or not. Science or not.
For many it’s all or nothing. So it’s wind and solar and almost nothing else, regardless of consequences.
I fully believe if fusion somehow becomes real the green movements will turn against it.
Clean cheap and free energy is NOT the goal for them.
$30k for that would indeed be a very good bargain, and quite a bit cheaper than most EVs. I think most comparable EVs are quite a bit more pricey - ID.4 at $40k base, Mach-E at $45k.
And especially, it'd only be a $3k premium over the base ICE model. Even without subsidies, that's low enough that many people will switch.