Cool, hope the poor site author is not deluged with too many requests from us HN nerds outside the US (I already put in a bid for Zurich and Geneva, if that saves on duplicate requests...)
I understand the feeds come from LiveATC, which has a FAQ answer explaining why UK feeds are legally forbidden [0]. Anyone happen to know why there are no German/Austrian airports on LiveATC [1], is it a similar legal issue?
According to wikipedia [0], ATC in Germany is subject to the Fernmeldegeheimnis [1]. It’s the same law that protects snail mail and other communications. Anyone who wants to even listen to ATC has to be certified [2], and then has to comply with that law.
One major exception is that you can listen to air band from a car if you're doing so in order to be able to retrieve a balloon, glider (sailplane) or other recreational aircraft.
(husband is a glider pilot who makes an "outside landing" every couple of years)
I was a huge fan of Daft Punk and I bought that disc day one.
Well, I totally hated it when I first listened to it.
It was probably too different from their previous work.
Still, I listened it again, not that terrible. Again, actually pretty cool. Again, incredible. And after multiple listenings, I finally accepted that, at least to me, it was just a masterpiece and I totally missed it.
And now, already a decade later, I have a strong feeling of nostalgia every time I stumble upon it and it’s one of my favorite music albums ever.
Still, I cannot describe why I love it so much. It just talks to me.
I wouldn’t even recommend it nowadays because if you are like me, you’ll not appreciate it by listening to it once on Spotify.
Or maybe I’m wrong, it’s just awesome and I was the one having a block. In this case, I’d recommend you to avoid listening to this track or this track but go for the full album because it was totally made like a full art piece.
And it’s actually a nice album to listen in background.
It's absolutely a masterpiece. There's no small amount of irony that THIS is the album that shows them to be Human After All, considering just how much live-action instrumentation is on this album. It demonstrated this flexibility and scope that their typical pure genius sampling hadn't necessarily ascended to.
My favorite track is almost certainly Moroder. What a thing to gift us: a brief autobiography/biopic from the grandfather of electronic music himself, explaining how he came to create the ancestor sounds of what we're listening to... and then on top of which some of the goddamn best drums (and real drums, to boot) and just an absolute banger.
Couple that with Nile Rogers appearing multiple times with some of the best guitar licks... the genius of Contact, building this narrative of an alien from Apollo 17 recordings... and the beautifully textured... almost "chunky" Motherboard. Man, this album is great. I really love Daft Punk.
Brilliant. I’m someone who has lofi playing most of the day at work or at home in the calmer times. I use an old JBL Bluetooth speaker that i found on the side of the road. Must be 10 years old. It distorts a bit at 75% volume which I like. The whole thing sounds lofi and beaten up.
I loaded this site and it just naturally fit in. I got Hawaii airport. I just felt like I was in the tower. The music was just how I was playing but now I’ve got beautiful lofi air controller audio. Thank you very much
The music currently playing (Kurt Stewart x Lomme – Window Seat) takes me back to this video https://youtu.be/6KRZEZTTcWk?t=555 , from the cockpit of a SWISS flight (Shanghai to Zürich) flying over Kazahkstan ("Middle East" seems to be a mistranslation)
The segment on alternate routes (avoiding 5000m mountains, and staying below 3000m?) in case of decompression was quite interesting. Of course, in darkness and bad weather, it sounds terrifying.
This is great. As someone who enjoys the aviation industry and needs something to listen to while I work, its nice to have two things to be used at the same time.
Looks like you're right, this is breaking their TOS:
>4) Since there are only limited numbers of connections available for streams, and because the site is funded through advertising and donations, you agree to consult LiveATC.net prior to linking directly to any of the audio streams. When you do link you agree to give credit to LiveATC.net with a prominent link to www.liveatc.net.
There is a link to LiveATC. It isn't clearly labeled, but that isn't required in the TOS and since this site has been up since at least November of 2021, I expect they're fine with it.
If you want to stream to liveatc, they’ll work with you to establish a receiver that ships packets to their reflector. Very low bandwidth, just have to have a spot to host the RF gear.
oh awesome, thank you! I shall have a look into this :)
edit: how important would antenna placement be? I assume it's not just like receiving an commericial FM music station signal in a building eh? I could mount it on the roof; but setting up a big mast would be an issue landlord wise! "As the crow flies" I'm fairly close to the airport
How would something like this she made? I had a similar idea (but mixing entirely different types of streams) and did a whole bunch of searching and couldn’t find a way to mix two external streams.
Do you record/buffer the streams and write local chunks to stream from? Or is it more like “bounce this stream but mix some local audio files over it”?
That's exactly what is happening here. There are two audio streams played by your browser, one being an mp3 file on the server (the lofi track) and the other coming from liveatc.net.
I've been using this now since it was posted but I'm realizing that it often stops the music (Safari), once I visit the tab again it continues playing.
Bug?
Edit: Now that I switched to the tab I could see for brief second a "Music could not load, try refreshing" message flash. After a brief moment it started playing again.
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[ 5.3 ms ] story [ 142 ms ] threadGreat work, love this!
[1]: https://somafm.com/player/#/now-playing/sf1033
[1] https://somafm.com/missioncontrol/
[1] https://publicservicebroadcasting.bandcamp.com/album/the-rac...
edit: I see you can request them since they are added manually
I understand the feeds come from LiveATC, which has a FAQ answer explaining why UK feeds are legally forbidden [0]. Anyone happen to know why there are no German/Austrian airports on LiveATC [1], is it a similar legal issue?
[0] https://www.liveatc.net/faq/ [1] https://www.liveatc.net/feedindex.php?type=international-eu
[0] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flugfunk [1] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernmeldegeheimnis [2] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprechfunkzeugnis_(Luftfahrt)
(husband is a glider pilot who makes an "outside landing" every couple of years)
https://www.liveatc.net/feedindex.php?type=international-eu
I was a huge fan of Daft Punk and I bought that disc day one.
Well, I totally hated it when I first listened to it.
It was probably too different from their previous work.
Still, I listened it again, not that terrible. Again, actually pretty cool. Again, incredible. And after multiple listenings, I finally accepted that, at least to me, it was just a masterpiece and I totally missed it.
And now, already a decade later, I have a strong feeling of nostalgia every time I stumble upon it and it’s one of my favorite music albums ever.
Still, I cannot describe why I love it so much. It just talks to me.
I wouldn’t even recommend it nowadays because if you are like me, you’ll not appreciate it by listening to it once on Spotify.
Or maybe I’m wrong, it’s just awesome and I was the one having a block. In this case, I’d recommend you to avoid listening to this track or this track but go for the full album because it was totally made like a full art piece.
And it’s actually a nice album to listen in background.
[/fanboy]
My favorite track is almost certainly Moroder. What a thing to gift us: a brief autobiography/biopic from the grandfather of electronic music himself, explaining how he came to create the ancestor sounds of what we're listening to... and then on top of which some of the goddamn best drums (and real drums, to boot) and just an absolute banger.
Couple that with Nile Rogers appearing multiple times with some of the best guitar licks... the genius of Contact, building this narrative of an alien from Apollo 17 recordings... and the beautifully textured... almost "chunky" Motherboard. Man, this album is great. I really love Daft Punk.
First listen of new albums, it's a no.
Then with each and every listen, it gets better and better.
I have no idea why that is.
I loaded this site and it just naturally fit in. I got Hawaii airport. I just felt like I was in the tower. The music was just how I was playing but now I’ve got beautiful lofi air controller audio. Thank you very much
The segment on alternate routes (avoiding 5000m mountains, and staying below 3000m?) in case of decompression was quite interesting. Of course, in darkness and bad weather, it sounds terrifying.
Says the source that seems to be https://www.liveatc.net
>4) Since there are only limited numbers of connections available for streams, and because the site is funded through advertising and donations, you agree to consult LiveATC.net prior to linking directly to any of the audio streams. When you do link you agree to give credit to LiveATC.net with a prominent link to www.liveatc.net.
Not nice.
Why jump to that conclusion? She could have consulted with them while building this.
> This music is free to use for your videos/livestreams
So I don't know if we can assume either the music or the ATC stream is being used without permission.
http://forums.radioreference.com/threads/stream-aircraft-am-...
If you want to stream to liveatc, they’ll work with you to establish a receiver that ships packets to their reflector. Very low bandwidth, just have to have a spot to host the RF gear.
edit: how important would antenna placement be? I assume it's not just like receiving an commericial FM music station signal in a building eh? I could mount it on the roof; but setting up a big mast would be an issue landlord wise! "As the crow flies" I'm fairly close to the airport
The tower and anyone on the ground are usually the trickiest signals to receive unless you're close to the airport.
How would something like this she made? I had a similar idea (but mixing entirely different types of streams) and did a whole bunch of searching and couldn’t find a way to mix two external streams.
Do you record/buffer the streams and write local chunks to stream from? Or is it more like “bounce this stream but mix some local audio files over it”?
You could also make a custom audio widget that played two streams at once and the local audio mixer will handle it.
Bug?
Edit: Now that I switched to the tab I could see for brief second a "Music could not load, try refreshing" message flash. After a brief moment it started playing again.
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP6EK9ydDUs#t=1m20s