I was actually about to start building something really similar to this. basically the recipe part your blog mentions- you'd throw in everything you have in your kitchen and it'd spit out stuff you can make with it.
but yeah I've been in the eating healthier / start cooking more mood recently, but also starting to be more active, so I wanted to make sure I was getting everything I needed. Calculating all of the nutrients/vitamins/minerals by hand sucks!
Any plans for a mobile version? (iPhone / Android) I can imagine this has even more value when you have it around all the time on your mobile, combined with push notifications?
As a huge fan of swole.me and long-time lurker of it - you could add in push notifications right now using Boxcar (boxcar.io). Disclosure: I helped build it. ;)
I agree you shouldn't have been downvoted for that. In my opinion, there's far too much downvoting going on at the moment on HN. People should remember that it's only a way to express that you feel a post is inappropriate to the discussion, not that you disagree with the sentiments of the post.
It told me I should eat a cup of avocado and 2 cups of skim milk for dinner. I'm confused and rather appalled by the thought of having that for any meal.
Additionally, I've heard stories of it telling people to eat 8 eggs for breakfast, so I'm a bit wary.
(No, the 8 eggs for breakfast was not a diet for Gaston, either)
The whole cholesterol in eggs thing is actually not really that big a deal: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21776466 (basically says that dietary cholesterol intake levels are unlinked from blood cholesterol in 75% of the population, and that it has been shown to inhibit atherogenesis/artery plaque formation)
Besides that, since they're made to carry something from a bundle of cells to full organism, they're chock full of a full set of micro and macronutrients.
This started as a site for body builders, though, and it's only now broadening to normal foods.
I really like the "raw" body-builder flavor to it: eat a cup of kale, eat a cup of almonds etc., so I hope if recipes do come in, they can somehow be turned off.
I just recommended it to reddit.com/r/leangains :-) though apparently it's been posted on /r/fitness before.
I eat a 6 egg, mushrooms, and bell peppers omelet for breakfast topped with salsa. I highly recommend it. I feel much better than the days I have oatmeal for breakfast. And it takes less than 5 minutes to prepare.
Hey everyone, I made this site. It's very much a work in progress, though if your diet already looks as much like the generated output as it does mine, it will be a great tool! (i.e. eat whatever I can find that barely needs cooking, swallow a shot of olive oil, slight self hatred, etc.)
I would, however, like to learn to cook, so I'm working on implementing recipes and a better food selection (it's clearly not worth learning unless I build something to tell me what to eat and when). Let me know if you have any feedback, and thanks.
It's very good, keep at refining it. I also think you're bang on with the UI layout. You're certainly onto something here. I'm sure you'll have a million little feature requests, perhaps you should use somewhere where people can vote on them. Here's mine:
- Allow capping the fat intake for a day.
- Metric units.
In the FAQ it says:
I used to, but I haven't had time to rework metric units to use the USDA food database. The metric measurements can currently be seen in the info tooltip next to each food.
Seems like an excellent idea so far. A low-carb option would be good. Also, if the user ticks "gaining weight" you could tailor the results to reflect that, rather than a simple scale on calorie input.
I love it so far. I'm a fit/skinny guy and never been particularly sure on what to eat (I'm ignorant of calories so the 'Not sure' button was brilliant) and your site has been useful.
Tie-ins with recipes and what not would be great. Do you plan monetising it somehow?
The "Not sure" suggested what I think were too many calories for me, even though I chose "Sedentary" in my lifestyle.
Maybe I should have put in my target weight instead of my current weight? (I'm 20 kgs overweight, which according to health statistics is in Obesity type 1 territory)
This is a really fantastic idea. Especially for people who have issues with eating, I would love to sit down and use this site with them and show them how to get the proper amount of food.
(1) It needs tweaking for vegetarians/vegans.
(2) My 'breakfast' for 1400 calories had 6 eggs and 1 apple, that's a whole lot of eggs for one meal.
Thanks! It's a bit confusing, but there's a separate breakfast menu. If you click any of the presets, it changes all of the breakfast menu foods too which isn't quite obvious yet.
Awesome, I'm totally going to use this - I hate diet sites that don't let me easily configure what I have on hand, or want to eat. "No, cottage cheese is not a good idea when you are lactose intolerant, thanks."
When clicking on the "not sure" link to determine how many calories we want per day, one is given a choice between Imperial and Metric units; but in the generated diets this choice is apparently not present?
(Also, what is a "cup"? and how many avocados does it hold...?)
1 cup = 236 ml. According to Wolfram Alpha, an avocado has a density of 0.97 g/ml, so it's roughly 229 grams. Average weight of an avocado is 210 grams.
At first I was like, yawn...another recipe site...then I tried it. This is awesome! From the pie charts to the info popups, it's clear you've polished this a fair bit.
There's so much more that can be done with this good luck and keep at it!
I'm running the latest (16.0.912.77) on Mac OS X, and not seeing any issue. It does jump to about 25% CPU when I click 'Generate', but only for about a second.
It's currently all javascript/jquery and PHP, though I'm moving the backend to Django. I'm also messing around with backbone.js, but haven't been able to push myself to make the switch yet.
I feel slightly the same way, but after a few hours of searching for a new name with no luck, I always end up feeling better about swole.me :) I'm definitely open to suggestions, so PM me if you have them.
This is great! I once tried to do something like this but gave up because of all the potential complexities. It looks like you have many of them covered. This has a lot of potential if you expand it to "real world" living. A few suggestions:
- ability to create and save custom templates of choices (beyond Atkins...)
- "ALL" toggle for each food group
- database of commercial groceries (Heinz baked beans)
- database of restaurant menus (Big Mac)
- templates of meal types beyond "breakfast" (post workout, TV snack)
- fix breakfast option (seems to ignore when chosen)
- seasonal menus for produce
- a way to cook meals for multiple people with their own preferences
- Natural Hygiene (Fit for Life, Fuhrman) template
- consider pricing
- micronutrients beyond carbs, protein, fats
- consider allergies
- raw options
- notifications (email, text, msg)
- historic reporting with suggestions (especially daily calories)
Best wishes for a great product. Please keep us posted.
This is great -- but I'd really like to see reasoning for the choices accompany recommendations. Maybe some citations to nutritional sources. If I'm going to be eating what someone tells me to eat, I want to be able to understand what's behind their recommendations and why they believe them to be sound.
Awesome app! This is going straight onto my bookmarks bar.
Only thing I can think of adding straight off is a button to copy your menu selections to the other side. If I tweak the menu settings for breakfast, I have to re-tweak them the same way for the other meals.
For dinner, it says I should have quinoa, wild rice, and chickpeas. I think it would be more appetizing if it did its calculations on a recipe basis -- so you'd get a menu plan composed of recipes selected to meet the given requirements.
Even though I have all eggs and dairy unchecked, it still tells me to eat 6 eggs for breakfast.
There are several comments here regarding the egg debate. Should you avoid eating too many eggs? What is the impact of eggs and other sources of dietary cholesterol on your blood cholesterol levels?
I've been wondering about this myself for some time, all the while eating cartons of egg whites for breakfast every day.
ericd posted a link[1], which appears to be a good source of information (far more than I have time to digest right now).
I only want to point out one small tidbit that I just found[2]; the American Heart Association (according to the webmd article) recommends keeping your dietary cholesterol intake below 300 milligrams per day. The same article reports that a chicken egg contains about 200 milligrams of it.
Now, I'm totally agnostic about things that I don't have time to properly research. In this case I would rather err on the side of caution, and will continue to limit my cholesterol intake.
That said, this app is nice if you enjoy eating this way (a bit of this and a bit of that; sans-recipe). This is pretty much how I normally eat, except that I never measure my portions.
A nice (premium?) feature might be a journal where you can easily record what you actually ate (in so much as it differs from the generated plan), your weight, etc.
I don't know, but maybe with enough journal data you could infer something about the user's metabolism (and average plan adherence), and make predictions about weight change.
Yeah. Put another way, the USDA makes all sorts of really stupid recommendations that should be viewed with skepticism. The food pyramid, for example, is totally off.
The AHA is probably exercising risk management. While dietary cholesterol doesn't affect blood cholesterol for most people, for some people (hyper-responders) it does raise blood cholesterol. Which is a bad thing.
So rather than saying "for most people it's OK, but be sure to get some fiddly blood work done a few times!", the AHA just says "don't do it, in case you're a hyper-responder".
The studies regarding eggs and cholesterol compare the effects of eating one or two eggs per day to the effects of eating none. There is not much difference between the two diets being compared. There are no studies that compare the effects of an egg free diet to the effects of eating 6-12 eggs per day. If you are eating a bodybuilder diet it's worth getting a metabolic panel to get an idea of what's happening inside.
This site is the second google result for swole, after the urban dictionary definition of the term. I honestly don't like the name, and I think for most people who have never heard the term this will bring to mind "swollen", not "buff". Not a good word association for a diet planner.
I feel mostly the same way, and I've spent a lot of time looking for a new one so I'm open to suggestions. I managed to scoop up dietcal.com and mealgorithm.com, and though I'm really into mealgorithm it seems a bit too complicated.
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but yeah I've been in the eating healthier / start cooking more mood recently, but also starting to be more active, so I wanted to make sure I was getting everything I needed. Calculating all of the nutrients/vitamins/minerals by hand sucks!
tldr- this app is awesome. good luck with it :)
Any plans for a mobile version? (iPhone / Android) I can imagine this has even more value when you have it around all the time on your mobile, combined with push notifications?
Good luck with the app!
If you don't fancy eating lots of eggs, etc, you can go to the sandbox mode and play around with combinations. He's planning on adding recipes soon.
edit: Seriously? I'm not trolling, ask any dietetic guy if he thinks it's healthy eating that much eggs everyday.
You can always change the foods it's allowed to use, though, just hit the Choose Foods button.
Seriously this 1980s alarmism needs to stop.
Additionally, I've heard stories of it telling people to eat 8 eggs for breakfast, so I'm a bit wary.
(No, the 8 eggs for breakfast was not a diet for Gaston, either)
"When I was a lad I ate four dozen eggs, every morning to help me get large"
Besides that, since they're made to carry something from a bundle of cells to full organism, they're chock full of a full set of micro and macronutrients.
This started as a site for body builders, though, and it's only now broadening to normal foods.
I just recommended it to reddit.com/r/leangains :-) though apparently it's been posted on /r/fitness before.
Besides, this is just one meal plan - you should be running it with your settings every day or so to get new meal plans.
I would, however, like to learn to cook, so I'm working on implementing recipes and a better food selection (it's clearly not worth learning unless I build something to tell me what to eat and when). Let me know if you have any feedback, and thanks.
I am worried about eating 6 eggs per day. Isn't there a risk of cholesterol?
Eggs are probably the single best/healthiest food so eat away and enjoy. They're also delicious.
You might want to look into using Punchfork's API for adding recipes. (http://punchfork.com/api)
But yes, I'd also like metric units.
Oh, and a kilojoule option.
Tie-ins with recipes and what not would be great. Do you plan monetising it somehow?
Maybe I should have put in my target weight instead of my current weight? (I'm 20 kgs overweight, which according to health statistics is in Obesity type 1 territory)
(1) It needs tweaking for vegetarians/vegans. (2) My 'breakfast' for 1400 calories had 6 eggs and 1 apple, that's a whole lot of eggs for one meal.
Love the idea. Please keep working on it.
Just donated $20 via PayPal to make it happen sooner ;)
Kinks: I unselected all the meat and it told me to have 8oz of steak, 6oz chicken breast, and 8oz of dark meats for breakfast!
A great way to start the day if you're a caveman!
As a vege in one day I need to eat a lot of eggs and drink a lot of milk.
6 Eggs + 1 Cup Egg Whites + 3 Cups of Milk
I wonder how to make a meal out of this:
2 eggs Eggs + 1 cup Lentils + 30 grams Protein Powder + 1 cup Strawberries
I think it has potential though. Will be good when there are recipes.
As a vege in one day I need to eat a lot of eggs and drink a lot of milk.
6 Eggs + 1 Cup Egg Whites 3 Cups of Milk
I wonder how to make a meal out of this:
2 eggs Eggs 1 cup Lentils 30 grams Protein Powder 1 cup Strawberries
I think it has potential though. Will be good when there are recipes.
(Also, what is a "cup"? and how many avocados does it hold...?)
It's 1 avocado.
There's so much more that can be done with this good luck and keep at it!
I'm curious about your tech stack. Mind sharing? :)
So for dinner I'm having 1 cup of cottage cheese? Not very original, how about an actual cooked meal?
kinda says swollen, which would implicate that you actually get fatter.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=swoll
Only thing I can think of adding straight off is a button to copy your menu selections to the other side. If I tweak the menu settings for breakfast, I have to re-tweak them the same way for the other meals.
Even though I have all eggs and dairy unchecked, it still tells me to eat 6 eggs for breakfast.
I also take umbrage to the trend of confusing foods with macronutrients (spinach is not carbs, meat is not protein, etc). http://www.foodpolitics.com/2012/01/peevish-about-protein/
I've been wondering about this myself for some time, all the while eating cartons of egg whites for breakfast every day.
ericd posted a link[1], which appears to be a good source of information (far more than I have time to digest right now).
I only want to point out one small tidbit that I just found[2]; the American Heart Association (according to the webmd article) recommends keeping your dietary cholesterol intake below 300 milligrams per day. The same article reports that a chicken egg contains about 200 milligrams of it.
Now, I'm totally agnostic about things that I don't have time to properly research. In this case I would rather err on the side of caution, and will continue to limit my cholesterol intake.
That said, this app is nice if you enjoy eating this way (a bit of this and a bit of that; sans-recipe). This is pretty much how I normally eat, except that I never measure my portions.
A nice (premium?) feature might be a journal where you can easily record what you actually ate (in so much as it differs from the generated plan), your weight, etc.
I don't know, but maybe with enough journal data you could infer something about the user's metabolism (and average plan adherence), and make predictions about weight change.
1. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21776466 2. http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/features/cholesterol-food
How much you eat barely changes the amount produced by your body.
If you want a better lipid profile, eat more eggs and fewer carbs.
Everything above is really well established fact at this point, propagandists like AHA to the contrary.
When in doubt, ask the practitioners, at say, leangains.com
So rather than saying "for most people it's OK, but be sure to get some fiddly blood work done a few times!", the AHA just says "don't do it, in case you're a hyper-responder".