Ask HN: Good mailing list software for communities?

I've used gnu mailman (at university and personally) and google groups (for work), with discourse for a few communities that are all tech-oriented, but would like to know if there exist good mailing list solutions (can be paid-for) for communities (in this case, the residents association in my area).

I need to be able to manage several mailing lists, easily administrate members, and ideally see archives of all the messages shown.

Mailman: hard to use / set up (I admin'd my own instance and hated it), but if there are good paid services I'd consider this.

Google Groups: lots of chatter about it being abandonware. We use it as part of Gsuite for business but it's not amazing. I wouldn't have this as part of a domain though, so not sure how it would work.

Discourse et al.: feel more like fora which can be used for mailing lists as well, but not sure if it will give me what I need.