Ask HN: What is a good gift for a mechanically oriented 8 year old
My friend has a son on the spectrum who is fascinated by mechanical objects. He has an awesome marble race and train setup in his room.
He loves to disassemble things. His mom asked if I thought it would be ok to get an old vcr or something from Goodwill (snip the cord for safety) so he can just take things apart.
I was wondering if anyone here had a rec for a toy, or if old electronics like this are dangerous. Any and all thoughts welcome.
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Just this week I went over to my nephew's house and we ended up spending time diagnosing a burnt out slipper clutch. We worked together to figure out a hack to fix it, and tried it but, alas, we needed a new part after all. A few days later he proudly informed me that he'd repeated all the work we had done by himself, fitted the new parts, and the car was up and ripping again.
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Around that age I was given a motorcycle battery and a variety of bulbs, relays and car parts. Unfortunately these days, electronics and miniaturization has reduced the scope of what can be educationally taken apart.
I started to maintain my bicycle maybe since 12 y.o. and a main source of that maintenance was poor quality of the bicycle.
Lego technics are excellent. I remember Zoids being neat too. For taking stuff apart, I think things with motors work well, e.g. blenders or old drills (metal casing ones best).
Edit: Looks like they're still alive and kicking! https://basicfun.com/knex/
My first experiences programming and building were with the original Mindstorms/NXT, and they were great. It looks like the Mindstorms platform was discontinued in 2022 (still probably a very solid choice) and it’s closest competitor would now be Vex IQ. Mindstorms might be better for younger kids though.
My youngest (5) was able to put together a plug-n-play kit and was extremely happy with the result, though he has crashed it to death since and I'm waiting on replacement parts.
I can't find the one we went with, but this is similar: https://ca.robotshop.com/products/airbit-2-programmable-dron...
This one is arguably under-featured and over-priced, but gets the idea across!
To avoid recommendations I've already seen, I'll recommend balsa wood planes, a paper airplane kit, and perhaps some kind of kit to build a propeller-powered item. I forget what these are called. Whirlygig?
I'm not sure how mature he is, but here are my guesses. He may need to grow into some of these:
Golden books (in electronic format on a tablet)
Lego Mindstorms - get plenty of spare parts Get him on a First Lego League team
RC Car (that he can assemble and modify) - get plenty of spare parts
Estes Model Rockets
Slot Cars are still around - get plenty of spare parts
Computer Programming with Scratch or MIT App Inventor
Talk to ChatGPT
Arduino-based or Raspberry-Pi-Based robot - get plenty of spare parts
I recently enjoyed taking apart and modifying pens from Dollar Tree. I took a bunch that I liked the look of in various colors, but that all had black inks. I changed out the inks for inks from inks in vibrant colors that I did not like the look of.
Cutting fretwork on a scroll saw - scroll saw and drill press required.
If he's too young for any of this, try showing him how to do it. Be patient and show him 3 or 4 times before giving up on one hobby / special interest.
This is the kind of thing you can make projects with just with cardboard and various fastening elements, in fact - tape and rubber bands and glue. It's not necessarily about "real electronics" at this stage, it's just that electronic objects have a combination of intricate design and visible access. Art often crosses over with this stuff in that you can also "take apart" things by transferring their visual appearance into hand motions through blind contour drawing. Graph paper and a color multipen can be a huge hit for this kind of kid, if they're shown how to use it to this end.
https://www.kiwico.com/
I’ve no connection to the company.
Admittedly 8yo is a little young to start. There are challenges, and patience is a must. But the family can find a local makerspace (or library, or school) to get a better idea of what's involved.
https://upperstory.com/spintronics/
Also echo another comment that some electronics are more dangerous to disassemble than others. For example cameras with flashes can have capacitors that hold a charge for a long time.
An old VCR is safe enough. He might cut a finger on a sharp edge but that's ok. Sounds like he's already curious, so let him have at whatever you can scrouge from a junk sale for $5. Cheapest education he'll ever get.
Some other ideas that cost next to nothing and let him explore the open world we live in:
USB Microscope - he'll be able to see the mechanics of texture in silk vs cotton and salt vs sugar vs flour, as well as the 100s of creatures in a drop of puddle water.
Infrared thermometer - highly useful and informative from now into adulthood. "Hey mom the oven temperature is wrong, it says 400 but my thermometer says 380," and "Little sister has a fever, it's 100.5 inside her ear," and "it's 935 degrees in the fireplace, and the windowsill is 41." Wholesome stuff.
A kitchen scale. High quality magnets. Samples of different materials. One of those green plastic sheets that make magnetic field lines visible.
And real tools - whatever he's ready for. In my generation, boys got their first pocketknife at age 6-8. I'm sure he'd appreciate a quality multitool.
If you love the kid, the next time you have to fix something like a lawnmower or a car, do it at his house and both of you will have a fun afternoon in the garage. Bring lemonade to keep the bloodsugar up. He will remember that day fondly for the rest of his life.
tl;dr: skip the toys. show him the real shit.