Ask HN: What CAPTCHAs can beat GPT-4?

3 points by acupofteaplease 3y ago ↗ HN

Systems based on GPT-4 can now pass most captchas and navigate the web using browser automation tools like Selenium. [1][2]

This enables exponential multiplication of "smart" bots, and most captchas we know of today are becoming useless.

Attempts to make better captchas seem limited. [5]

And most alternatives to captchas are quite problematic:

- more paywalls and subscriptions to make it more costly to run a lot of bots (see what musk's twitter is doing now) [3]

- biometric authentication to prove you are human (see sam altman's worldcoin) [4]

Are there any other alternatives out there? Can you think of better CAPTCHAs?

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/11vlcna/gpt4_can_now_solve_image_captchas_so_i_made_a/

[2] https://twitter.com/RealRichomie/status/1653484066010718208?s=20

[3] https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1640502698549075972

[4] https://techcrunch.com/2023/03/07/worldcoin-cofounded-by-sam-altman-is-betting-the-next-big-thing-in-ai-is-proving-you-are-human

[5] https://www.hcaptcha.com/post/detecting-large-language-models

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throwaway60607 3y ago ↗

A person vouching for another person. If they vouch for a bot and it's uncovered, they and all the others they vouched for lose access forever. This creates a powerful social dynamic wrt. choosing who vouches for you and who you vouch for.

neximo64 3y ago ↗

The cloudflare one, since OpenAI use it themselves?

moasda 3y ago ↗

Could the web of trust approach be a solution?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_of_trust

Possibly, this will give it a boost again.

ftxbro 3y ago ↗

I mean if you really had to, you can ask to write certain harmful language and GPT-4 will refuse to do it. I'd prefer to not do it like this though.

acupofteaplease 3y ago ↗

Have you heard of "Neurosemantic Invertitis"? [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/11yvk5g/using_the_...