Have you successfully got friends, former coworkers, or loved ones a tech job?
Many times in the past I have attempted to help people I know find a job by floating their resume around with a solid recommendation as well as using my social media network to try create leads and generate some interest (with permission)
I don't think my efforts have ever been successful.
What have you done to successfully help people land a gig? Can you share some stories?
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[ 0.28 ms ] story [ 45.2 ms ] threadI have also made it a priority to be aware of my network. Who's where, what they're working with, if they like it, but also keeping track of people that are good at their jobs that may drift out of my immediate working-sphere.
Then I ask if the person can contact them directly. If they say yes, I give my friend or colleague their contact info.
I never lie or embellish the truth when I do this. If I don't think they'd be excellent in the role, I don't recommend them, period. If they're hired on my recommendation and turn out to suck, that will reflect poorly on me.
I also don't hand over their resume or CV. That's up to them to do. All I'm doing is introducing them to the hiring person. They have to take it the rest of the way.
(If you don’t care, feel free to ignore. That’s grosser though).
And I'm not sure what you mean by unwitting in this context. I'm not tricking them into giving away a kidney. All jobs have referral bonuses. Does it somehow become grosser because this is the only job where the bonus has been big enough for me to care?
Please explain your rationale.
"Hey, can I see your resume, I just want to have one to look at?"
"Oh hey, my boss wants to talk to you, and maybe a couple more people too, can you show up at the office all day?"
"Don't worry, it's not a big deal, but can you maybe drive me to and from work every day, and to save gas, maybe you should stay at the office; you better tell your employer you won't be making it in anymore"
"Oh, can I have your bank account info to pay you for gas?"
"Hey, since you're here, can you work on this list of todos?"
"Oh oops, I deposited a salary instead of gas money"
It feels like a kind thing to do when you’re being given money for little more than an email. It’s a win-win for both parties.
Conversely, I wouldn’t expect a signing bonus for the new hire to be shared, so take that as you will.
No. I don't understand why they would have any claim on it. Typically when I interview, I'm looking forward to my potential salary. It wouldn't occur to me to try and take someone else's bonus.
> It’s a win-win for both parties.
It's not a win for me if I have to give away half of a bonus I earned. Or are you saying that a competitive salary isn't enough of a win for the referee?
I'm curious, how many times have you personally been involved in a transaction like this? You've given away referral bonuses? People have given their bonuses to you?
- talk to the hiring manager directly, preferably you already have a trusting relationship with and make a sincere and honest recommendation for the person
- if you're good, your friend is good, the hiring manager is good, and it's generally a fit, hiring would be quite possible
also, 30 years ago i got my dude a job - back when pretending to know java was enough to get you a job.
in both cases, they were real opportunities and strong demand and real needs and smaller companies who were probably generally glad to have a reco, etc. don't think there was much selling, on the whole, it just kind of happened.
i'd guess that's one of the advantages small companies have - they might hire your friends, for better or worse.
i turned down help getting jobs for decades, so finally tried it. i'm not above it, but eh.
I'm hoping in a year or so he'll have enough confidence to apply for a "real" job, and that this gets him off the ground. I'd lose him for my company, but I can deal with that. I'd rather he get further into the industry and make a gazillion dollars, and that won't be possible with me.
Sometimes I think it's just a matter of giving people a step up, even if it's not to the top floor.
After leetcode became common, I haven’t gotten anyone a job. They always fail the leetcode interview. Likewise, friends have gotten me interviews, but I’ve always failed the leetcode problems.