Ask HN: What would you do if you had the summer off as a technologist?

21 points by digitalsanctum ↗ HN
I recently resigned my position as a principal software engineer and decided to take the summer off to regroup before pursuing another opportunity.

I have a long list of topics I'm planning to learn more about in my free time and I'm curious what kinds of things HN readers would focus on.

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Unplug my brain and travel to a faraway place like New Zealand or the Azores.
I tend to be a homebody but traveling to faraway places are on the bucket list for sure. I'm trying to conserve funds to extend my time off so I'll be taking more day trips near where I live here in Washington.
Southeast Asia is great for that then. I went for 3 months and spent around 6k total. Granted, that was when I was younger and stayed in hostels, but even Airbnb or hotel prices aren't too bad, as in some countries you can get your own place for 10 to 20 bucks a night.
What would you do if you had the summer off as a technologist?

AI. I think we're getting to the point where we've seen just enough progress with contemporary AI systems, to think that the "knee of the curve" is close, and that within a few years "everything is going to change." I'm at a point with this to where I mostly think that working on anything other than AI is probably a waste of time.

Of course in my case AI has been one of my top interests for the last 30 years anyway, so this isn't some big swerve for me. But it motivates me to "lean in" to AI research as fully as I can, and to focus on AI applications, integration, etc.

OK, so saying "working on anything other than AI is probably a waste of time" may be a little bit of hyperbole, but I definitely see it being pretty damn important. That said, if I was going to carve out some time to study anything other than AI, for me it would probably be biochemistry, bioengineering, nanotechnology, or electronics / hardware stuff.

Coming from someone where AI has not been one of my top interests for the last 30 years, what specifically should the focus be?

In the last several months I have used ChatGPT for things like thought experiments and churning out code faster.

Coming from someone where AI has not been one of my top interests for the last 30 years, what specifically should the focus be?

That's tough to answer. I have some specific areas of interest that I've cultivated over years and decades of maintaining a somewhat passive interest in AI, and only starting to really work on more serious research over the past few years. And even then, my list of "stuff to look into" is somewhat speculative, so I'm not sure how much value there would be in going into it in detail.

That said, I've alluded to this briefly in previous HN posts, and it's not any kind of secret or anything. My interest areas include a heavy-dose of focus on "neuro-symbolic" systems: that is, integrating neural networks and "symbolic computing" (aka "GOFAI" or "Good Old Fashioned AI). To drill down a bit more: the idea is to use neural networks where they are really good at pattern recognition: image recognition, speech recognition, some language understanding tasks, etc., and then integrate that with more purpose built systems that work at a "symbolic level" (or you might say "knowledge level") to do things like deductive reasoning, abductive inference, temporal reasoning, inductive inference, common sense reasoning, etc. One of the tripping points for this is how to translate between the representations of "knowledge" across those different modalities.

In the last several months I have used ChatGPT for things like thought experiments and churning out code faster.

Yeah, I think for anybody who maybe isn't interested in diving into AI research per-se, doing stuff like that is very valuable. At the very least, learning to use and manage and work with the AI tools/platforms that are put out there will probably be an increasingly valuable skill over the years to come.

The only thing I'd add to this is to say that I think it might be a mistake to focus only on LLM's. Don't get me wrong: I'm amazed at what LLM's can do and I think they are - and will continue to be - very important, but I don't know that I think they are the "be all, end all" of AI. It might be worthwhile to look at the suite of AI/ML offerings being provided by cloud providers like AWS, Azure, GCP, etc. and at least get familiar with working with some of those things.

Just rest. Play some Doom, Quake and maybe Blood. Learn some basic camping skills and camp a few times with family. Maybe visit some friends too.
Agreed. I already went on a camping trip to Jedediah Smith Redwoods park and re-installed an old but enjoyable game (to me) called Insurgency.
That's really nice. I'm going to practice camping in my backyard first...
Work on non-tech projects. Work on personal tech projects. Work in the garden. Go fishing. Work on personal fitness.
Agreed! I've already prioritized personal health and working outside.
Pursue things that actually possess art or soul - gardening, woodworking, masonry, baking, reading old Latin books, reciting old Cumbrian poetry, writing poetry, walk in the woods. Maybe play some vidya, maybe create some vidya.
Finding a not tech-primary domain to work or learn about. Understanding the problems and work of domains that currently don't use modern tech is where potential tech based solutions could offer improvements (of course the possibility is that there may not be a need for more tech in a particular domain).
This is something I've been thinking a lot about recently in the context of an area I might try to build a SaaS for.

One domain I've encountered that falls into this category is mom and pop food stores which don't typically have a decent website. You typically have to visit the store or call to find out things like what they stock and current prices (to do comparison shopping).

I would cautiously advise to spend time with a lot of the stores learning about their problems before building that. For it not to be duplicate, or added work for a small shop, you might need to take over all the inputs and outputs of their inventory/pricing, not just for the online portion.
Take care of my kids during the day so my wife can finish writing (and publishing) her books.
Rent a beach house, bring a bunch of books, and host friends on vacation.
I'd lean into my love affair with nature. I'd walk, in random places, at different times of day, and experience more of the beauty of a first at dawn, and in the middle of the night.

This is already one of my favourite things in life.

You would do nothing then. That’s my answer as well but no justification needed.
I disagree actually. I find it cleansing, and helps me keep new ideas alive. I view this as the reverse of doing nothing, it's rebuilding inspiration.

Projects and companies come and go .But the focus value from this I find invaluable.

I learned carpentry and gardening.

Very grounding. Still requires mental acuity but gives you the opportunity to use different parts of your brain, and it rounds you out as a person.

Very grounding and it has been good for my mental (and physical!) health too.

Fishing. Every day if I could. Paddle boarding. Mountain biking. So many other things. I’d easily be able to fill my days for the rest of my life if I didn’t have to earn money.
Sail. Race and Cruise. Solo, double-handed, and with Crew.
In April 2021 I did about the same thing you are doing. I was burnt out. I no longer liked my job, I was a bit stir-crazy from WFH and not going to social gatherings because of the pandemic. I decided to take a sabbatical. In my case, a full year. I had high hopes that the incidence of COVID would fall faster than it did, so I wasn't able to do everything that I wanted.

Still, you asked what I did. I read, a lot, and deeply. I wrote tens of thousands of words about what I read and did. I guess you could say I went into myself.

I did manage to do a little road tripping, carefully, avoiding crowded tourist venues and mostly seeing the country.

I did a lot of photography, my hobby-job.

Improve my running, grow more plants and work on personal SDR projects
Hike as much of the Sierras as is humanly possible. Not the PCT, but as many trails as I could up and down, East and West, whatever.
wow almost every post so far is about unplugging. I expected to see more about AI or AR, seeing people taking care of their health is refreshing
Make things - welding, woodworking, fiberglassing, etc. Maybe even make a website documenting things I'm making to assist others (and show off a little).
congrats on the extended vacation! this should be common behavior, and is not.

take the summer and chill, without any guidelines or expectations. this may feel weird at first. creativity is the residue of time wasted.

then do some more structured and ambitious adventuring in the fall. if that feels annoying, continue to chill.

in winter, start thinking about which kind of people you’re interested in working for, and try to figure out where they are and how to reach them.

tldr; summer is just the beginning!

wrt to technical topics to mess around with, follow your own curiosities. for me it’s gamedev, ops/infra, and data/secrets management.

it looks like you’re interested in rust. in case you haven’t seen it, checkout #showcase in bevy’s discord server. lots of people posting cool stuff in there.

Thanks for the encouraging words and I certainly will checkout #showcase on the bevy discord server.
I am taking the time to complete my next professional military education course for 3 months. I will regain my CISSP and consider changing careers.
Good luck! One of my hobbies in the past has been bug bounties and I've heard the CISSP is one of the harder certs to attain.
For me, same as always: try to bootstrap a startup.

Right now GPT and Stable Diffusion are very popular and there are many potential new businesses.

My suggestion is to be very careful which GPT you use though. There are a lot of inferior ones out there.