did an uber exec stop at a gas pump, breathe in some fumes, watch the ads play while pumping, down a couple of buzz balls from inside the convenience store, and shout eureka while driving off into the sunset?
> One of Uber’s key selling points will be its ability to use data based on users’ own travel and purchase histories to target them during the critical period between the time they open each app and the time they complete their transactions, according to Grether. The average Uber ride lasts approximately 15 minutes, and riders spend about two of those minutes paying attention to the app on average, he said.
> “We have two minutes of your attention. We know where you are, we know where you are going to, we know what you have eaten,” he said. “We can use all of that to then basically target a video ad towards you.”
I typically associate in-app video ads with C-tier mobile games that are a few steps removed from a click farm. None of those has a home on my device.
I’m glad and feel lucky to live in a city with good public transportation, guess I can go back to the old call restaurant and pickup order method in peace now.
It also seems that they are planning on adding tablets to the cars to play ads? We’ve come full circle to taxis…
> It also seems that they are planning on adding tablets to the cars to play ads?
This one leaves me a little dumbfounded. Do they really expect Uber drivers to go along with this? Many drivers are motivated to provide a pleasant and comfortable experience so they get high feedback from their riders. Installing a tablet to force the rider to view ads is going to result in lots of negative feedback for the drivers who go along with it.
> I’m glad and feel lucky to live in a city with good public transportation
I wish we had good public transportation here, but I do feel lucky to live in a city where Uber hasn't destroyed the taxi industry. I've been to cities where Under and Lyft were the only viable options, and it makes me really miss taxis.
But I'm guessing the risk then is to fuel an alternative "pirate youtube".
If you show ads that are blockable by adblocker, everyone, even power users, goes on the same platform to comment, share subscribe etc. If you were to, as you say, put ads straight into the feed, you can be bet that torrents, newsgroup and russian websites would be crawling with ad free versions of the videos. You'd thus remove a significant portion of your userbase to those website. And sure, maybe they did not see ads so they did not contribute directly to your revenues, but they were probably sharing those videos on social networks etc.
I wonder if the evolution of adblockers will be 'computer vision model figures out where the ads are, then propagates the timestamps to all subscribers to auto-skip them SponsorBlock style'? Not a great deal Google can do about that.
Unpopular opinion, but I’m fine with this. Uber is incredibly useful to me and struggles with profitability. If they need to serve ads (that I’ll invariably ignore) to keep the lights on, so be it.
It would honestly shock me if the monetization from ads exceeds the costs of having a slightly shittier app.
I wonder if one of these “and oh well also sell ads” plays has ever worked? Adding secondary monetization via ads always struck me as a move of desperation when it comes from a non-entertainment app.
Any service that achieves a certain level of network effect will inevitably use that position against its users, knowing very few of them will change their behavior and abandon the network.
The biggest networks have become too big to be disrupted on a short enough time scale that execs worry about. I don't know if a Digg to Reddit type migration is possible anymore. But Reddit and Twitter are well into their phase where we know we don't like using them anymore. We've just established these patterns and no one serves them well anymore. It will take a decade for these services to really die, but the die is cast.
Between Twitter, Reddit, and now Uber it seems like the pretense of preserving a good user experience has suddenly been found to be unnecessary.
So Uber is joining all those other companies in trying to make the world a worse place by bringing the very worst aspects of mobile apps and the internet into the real world?
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Can't wait on minority report like front camera watching your eyes checking that you are watching the ad.
> “We have two minutes of your attention. We know where you are, we know where you are going to, we know what you have eaten,” he said. “We can use all of that to then basically target a video ad towards you.”
Thanks, I hate it.
And we're going to use those two minutes to actively piss you off.
I’m glad and feel lucky to live in a city with good public transportation, guess I can go back to the old call restaurant and pickup order method in peace now.
It also seems that they are planning on adding tablets to the cars to play ads? We’ve come full circle to taxis…
This one leaves me a little dumbfounded. Do they really expect Uber drivers to go along with this? Many drivers are motivated to provide a pleasant and comfortable experience so they get high feedback from their riders. Installing a tablet to force the rider to view ads is going to result in lots of negative feedback for the drivers who go along with it.
I wish we had good public transportation here, but I do feel lucky to live in a city where Uber hasn't destroyed the taxi industry. I've been to cities where Under and Lyft were the only viable options, and it makes me really miss taxis.
But I'm guessing the risk then is to fuel an alternative "pirate youtube".
If you show ads that are blockable by adblocker, everyone, even power users, goes on the same platform to comment, share subscribe etc. If you were to, as you say, put ads straight into the feed, you can be bet that torrents, newsgroup and russian websites would be crawling with ad free versions of the videos. You'd thus remove a significant portion of your userbase to those website. And sure, maybe they did not see ads so they did not contribute directly to your revenues, but they were probably sharing those videos on social networks etc.
I'm guessing that's the rational anyway.
I'll just take a cab.
I wonder if one of these “and oh well also sell ads” plays has ever worked? Adding secondary monetization via ads always struck me as a move of desperation when it comes from a non-entertainment app.
The biggest networks have become too big to be disrupted on a short enough time scale that execs worry about. I don't know if a Digg to Reddit type migration is possible anymore. But Reddit and Twitter are well into their phase where we know we don't like using them anymore. We've just established these patterns and no one serves them well anymore. It will take a decade for these services to really die, but the die is cast.
Between Twitter, Reddit, and now Uber it seems like the pretense of preserving a good user experience has suddenly been found to be unnecessary.
I wish that surprised me.