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Thankfully we know #5 is false through a cursory examination of history.

After all, the US Air Force successfully provided air support to our ally’s during the Bay of Pigs leading to a free and prosperous Cuba.

If we look to the Middle East, our Allie’s, the Taliban, share great relations with us to this day after we supported them in their endeavor to build a stable, prosperous, and free society after overthrowing the Soviets.

And how could we forget our friends in South Vietnam?

>4. US exploits Russia-Ukraine and China-Taiwan.

>5. Ukraine fell for it. Useful idiot. Will dump later.

Feel for what? there land being invaded by a imperialistic neighbour again?.

The US is helping Ukraine defend itself from the imperialistic beast.

If all this was such a complicated ruse to contain Russia, then please get on your hotline to the Kremlin and tell them to pull out of Ukraine it will make them able to challenge the US.

And it's even what Ukraine wants!.

Win, Win.

US is not a vivificaing spirit of everything that happens on the planet. Ukrainians wanted to go their own way. Moscow didn't wanted to lose strict control over them, so they went all out in their usual style. Same thing happened in Georgia in 2008. Its the people that wanted to change things, not some magical US meddling. On the other hand if something happens then the US usually tries to exploit it for their own benefit.

IMO your way of looking at reality is wrong, because it messes causality.

i think it is good going for the baltics, and more in general with russian antagonists...we have a huge debt to ukr for what they are doing
Sure, Europe has to do more, but the idea that Russia is in a total state of war is pure propaganda.

https://www.sipri.org/sites/default/files/2023-06/sipriinsig...

If your society is in full war against Europe and you only spend 5% of your GDP something doesn't add up.

Also, IMO it's not really that Europeans are not convinced that Russia is a threat, but rather that the messaging of European leaders is basically " we have 10 big problems we need to solve , we will work on them all at once " and obviously it all comes out wrong cos it's all half assed. We need to beat inflation and all massively update our armies and we need to decouple from China and we need to be climate neutral by 2050 and solve the gender gap and protect our democracy from the far right and etc.

Like the amount of issues that for example the Ampel(Germany) or Macron(France) have to face at the same time is multiples that of Lithuania.

Why Europe decouple from China? That is someone else's confrontation.

With just one move (Ukraine nationalist stooges), Europe is messed up for the next 20 years.

> With just one move (Ukraine nationalist stooges), Europe is messed up for the next 20 years.

If you think Europe is the one coming out worse for wear in this situation then you do not live in reality.

Given you post history already though, it appears you don't live in reality anyway and purely signed up to spread Russian Propaganda.

>If your society is in full war against Europe and you only spend 5% of your GDP something doesn't add up.

Its almost like the numbers arent real or something, like maybe russians are lying? might be worth considering.