That’s the conclusion I came to when I was lifting, running and cycling without any progress aside from the mystery pound or kilo that would come and go. What you eat everyday makes the real difference.
But obesity is just based on numbers and I’m sure many people don’t really know they are considered obese. The really obese people I’ve met seen pretty content with their lifestyle.
My dad is overweight but genuinely believes/d himself the ideal weight. I went over the chart with him and still he's eating over 2000 cals a day.
I asked him how many calories he thought someone needs for a day and he said 6000.... and he calls himself a "foodie", refusing to wat "mass produced junk" and believss he "knows shit". So someone who supposedly has an interest in food is that misinformed and negligent .. let that sink in.
People are monkeys with a tendency to wilful ignorance when it comes to issues of health vs pleasure.
Of fucking course they are. I can track everything I eat, but most of the time I find myself too stressed to care, let alone to run the numbers in my head. If your life sucks and food is the only thing that gives you any reprieve from anger, anxiety, and depression, I don't think any amount of accuracy or willpower will save you from gaining weight.
It's not remotely hard to track 1500 minus each item as you go.
Restaurants make it even easier by putting it on the menu.
Eat a chicken burger at KFC - deduct 600 calories leaving 900 for the day.
Self control is the first step to improving QoL.
I had allergies to everything for ages, I missed normal food, but despite having severe spinal injuries, clinical anxiety and major depression, living in abject poverty after those combined to result in repeated job losses, I am still in full control of my diet and maintain the same weight +-5 lbs rather than falling to gluttony in desperation to enjoy what i missed out on for two decades ...
Most of yall have no clue what actual suffering is, which is what you're trying to say justifies lack of self control.
Just control yourself, or never expect anyone to control themselves in any fashion and accept when someone like me decides they've had enough of the bs and loses control in other ways, right?
(Bit of a rant there, but really, you have zero clue. I literally had to live on white sugar for 3/4s of my calories for a decade because of dietary restrictions... you think it's not magnitudes harder to ensure a proper volume of consumption when you're living on freaking sugar water?)
It absolutely isn't. I agree with you. I have issues coping with my emotions. That's the problem, not tracking. I am acutely aware that I eat far, far past the point of satiety until it physically hurts at least once a week, and yet I still do it. I don't have any other functional coping mechanisms.
You can say "self-control" but what you mean is self-control 24/7, or at least 24/6. I don't have infinite willpower.
I don't think "complete" is the right word to use. Perhaps "whole." It seems to me that what you're describing as "development" is in many cases the process of healing from trauma, which indeed stunts one's development.
The emotional mechanism at play in my case is pretty clear to me but healing is a slow process and it takes as long as it takes.
Family member is. And it's a massive burden on their time and all their coworkers. More than you could imagine. So yeah, it has real world implications that we have to 'accept' the fact that half our population is killing themselves or making their existing conditions much worse because they're so overweight. The member of my family member estimated that easily 50%+ of their time is used dealing with issues stemming from their weight (think special sized beds, extra manual labor for patient transportation, extra resources needed for surgery, extra resources needed for long term hospital stays, etc). So it's a bit annoying that you casually sweep this away as an 'online only' problem when its a massive drain on our limited healthcare resources but you can't even question why we put up with it or God forbid people should lose some weight to make dealing with all the other health issues less costly.
Forgive me, but are that many people that morbidly obese and adamant that it's not their responsibility when they're in the dang hospital? I'm carrying around a few dozen extra pounds, but I don't need special-sized anything.
The bitter truth is that people don't lose weight because it's goddamn fucking hard.
Few dozen extra pounds is not what is causing the issues like making surgery or care hard. It's not that there's that so so many (quick search shows 20% of ICU patients are morbidity obese) but that caring for that percentage takes larger amount of the resources. From what my family member tells me, the situation is like this: for issue X you might stay in an ICU bed for Y days. For a morbidly obese patient, the care or operation can take an extra day (need special resources) but worse, they take much longer to heal or be in good enough shape to leave the bed. So they stay in the beds much longer. Basically the same issue we saw with covid: when people stay in the ICU beds longer and longer it quickly sucks up all available resources. Add up all the extra complications needed to care for the obese and that it's becoming more and more common, you start to see the issues pile up.
You couldn't design a better society than the modern US to cause all this shit. There's a reason everyone from overseas who travels here puts on weight.
I have to be fastidious to the point of obsession to not gain. Intermittent fasting and the like don't circumvent the bare fact that you need to eat fewer calories than you burn; they're clever "hacks" and in fact make my binge-eating habit worse. It's so goddamn irritating.
I actually can pretty accurately estimate the calories I eat at, eg, a restaurant, but I have to do it all the time. I can't use food as an emotional release or social lubricant. I grew up without being taught to manage my emotions, so I ate them, which is how I got to be 5'7" and >200# in the first place.
It's important to remember that it's not just weight, but the lifestyle and especially dietary carbohydrate quality- I became prediabetic while borderline underweight, just by hardly ever moving and eating a lot of bread/pasta/rice at a time.
It would be nice if they specified where the people they conducted this experiment on came from.
Is it 1 in 5 "healthy" people from the US? 1 in 5 "healthy" people worldwide? 1 in 5 "healthy" people from the Americas? And what does "American" mean in the context of the study?
It may seem petty, but I genuinely can't tell. By title I would think worldwide.
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This health crisis is a slow moving disaster.
How much higher than 50% obesity rates will it have to get before people care?
I asked him how many calories he thought someone needs for a day and he said 6000.... and he calls himself a "foodie", refusing to wat "mass produced junk" and believss he "knows shit". So someone who supposedly has an interest in food is that misinformed and negligent .. let that sink in.
People are monkeys with a tendency to wilful ignorance when it comes to issues of health vs pleasure.
Restaurants make it even easier by putting it on the menu.
Eat a chicken burger at KFC - deduct 600 calories leaving 900 for the day.
Self control is the first step to improving QoL.
I had allergies to everything for ages, I missed normal food, but despite having severe spinal injuries, clinical anxiety and major depression, living in abject poverty after those combined to result in repeated job losses, I am still in full control of my diet and maintain the same weight +-5 lbs rather than falling to gluttony in desperation to enjoy what i missed out on for two decades ...
Most of yall have no clue what actual suffering is, which is what you're trying to say justifies lack of self control.
Just control yourself, or never expect anyone to control themselves in any fashion and accept when someone like me decides they've had enough of the bs and loses control in other ways, right?
(Bit of a rant there, but really, you have zero clue. I literally had to live on white sugar for 3/4s of my calories for a decade because of dietary restrictions... you think it's not magnitudes harder to ensure a proper volume of consumption when you're living on freaking sugar water?)
You can say "self-control" but what you mean is self-control 24/7, or at least 24/6. I don't have infinite willpower.
You see, this is a difference between "complete" people and people who haven't actually finished "developing" (which is the vast majority even at 80).
Control is a constant, not a transient, trait.
The emotional mechanism at play in my case is pretty clear to me but healing is a slow process and it takes as long as it takes.
The bitter truth is that people don't lose weight because it's goddamn fucking hard.
I have to be fastidious to the point of obsession to not gain. Intermittent fasting and the like don't circumvent the bare fact that you need to eat fewer calories than you burn; they're clever "hacks" and in fact make my binge-eating habit worse. It's so goddamn irritating.
I actually can pretty accurately estimate the calories I eat at, eg, a restaurant, but I have to do it all the time. I can't use food as an emotional release or social lubricant. I grew up without being taught to manage my emotions, so I ate them, which is how I got to be 5'7" and >200# in the first place.