Ask HN: Recruiters, do you ever catch current employees job-hunting?

7 points by jc_811 ↗ HN
Recruiters of HN, have you ever found out a current employee is applying to other jobs via your recruiting network? Or perhaps a LinkedIn setting tipped you off.

Is there any sort of SOP for this? Do you tell the employee’s manager as a heads up, or simply ignore it and keep it to yourself?

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Not a recruiter. You ignore it and keep it to yourself. Full stop. People look for jobs for any number of personal reasons.
Just want to add a bit to round this out a bit more. Even if I were a manager for a team and I found out a member of my team was looking for work, why would I stop them? Frankly, I might even consider encouraging them to look. “See if you can find a better opportunity.” As a manager, I would ultimately want the best for them. It’s almost always in my best interest to let them search unless there are very clear and immediate actions I can take to keep them happy long term. Why keep an employee who’s not invested? That can do so much damage to a team, it’s hard to imagine until you experience it. Pay alone is not enough to motivate someone to stay long term. I think this is a common misconception because it’s often given in exit interviews as a cop out to avoid burning bridges. “I left because of pay” is often given as a reason because it’s just such an easy excuse to not really piss anyone off.

Way way more often, the case is either flat out bad management or misalignment of the employee expectations with management and/or organizational vision which is way way harder to quantify so thus, nobody does. In the latter, there are often performance issues anyway.

All that said, I’ve worked for companies and have also seen people fired just for simply “looking.” Usually this is a sign of clear toxicity in the company culture because the management ego was hurt when they found out their employee was disloyal. We all know the company would just kick an employee to the curb at the first sign of trouble so it’s unfair to expect anything else from an employee.

Keep it to yourself. What is this schoolyard tattle-tale behavior? Employees have a right to job hunt. Additionally, interviewing is a skill and people should do practice interviews when they don't want a new job and for jobs they don't want, so that they can be prepared when one they do want comes up. And they should do that because assholes like you do nothing to help them get those jobs and then take a fat slice on top of their paychecks.
I understand the temptation to comment on the character of OP (against HN guidelines) but we don’t know anything about OP and should assume good faith and it’s entirely possible OP is new to the field. At face value, OP might think the right thing to do is “report it.” I have trust in the system that at worst, whoever they report it to will just say “ok, thanks for reporting” and the world simply shrugs and moves on.
I've had my fair share of useless, self interested recruitment firm representatives who enrich themselves at up to 20% of my six figure salary and literally offer me and my employer nothing. Pre-qualification always consisted of 5 minutes in a coffee shop. They hold on to my police clearance (which I had to pay for) and my medical results, and won't let me have them. They offer no services, or maybe repackage a third party salary packaging company's product if you're lucky.

Literally the only benefit that I have gotten is to be paid on a weekly pay cycle instead of monthly one, which is a dubious benefit to be honest, anyway.

They've sent me to job interviews for skills I don't have, lied to clients about me and wasted everyone's time.

This is a horrible rent-seeking class of no-good people and they shouldn't exist. They should have honest jobs and work for a living like many other humans have no choice but to do.

I've seen plenty of contracted people from such firms be let go due to incompetence, to boot. These people are useless.

I'm not going to beat around the bush on this I'm afraid.

> I've had my fair share of useless, self interested recruitment firm representatives who enrich themselves at up to 20% of my six figure salary and literally offer me and my employer nothing.

If they truly offered nobody nothing, they wouldn't exist. What they offer is convenience - to the hiring manager. He can just ring a couple of recruiters and have a bunch of people to interview in a couple of days. In theory, the company's HR should provide this service to him instead, but some companies are too small to have HR, and many companies' HR is incompetent or dysfunctional and will not find the right match for the job.

Yes, the ~20% they charge on an ongoing basis is a lot for this service, but the hiring manager does not care, as long as he has money in the budget. So, you could say recruiters take advantage of the managerial class not really working to benefit the owners of the company, and being very loose with their money. They found a way to exploit a weakness of the corporate structure, like many other corporate vendors do - big and small, from mom'n'pop stores which deliver vegetable baskets, to your Microsofts and Googles.

Passing such information on would be very unethical.
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