Suicidal. Thoughts?

15 points by _ofwb ↗ HN
I have been a part of this community for 10+ years, I’m not sure where else to go.

I have come to the realization that I’ll never live up to my potential or my hopes and dreams.

I’ll never be a Stanford MBA. I’ll never be a YC Founder. I’ll never be 30 under 30.

I’m a no-name failed startup founder with absolutely nothing to show for my years and years of work.

My last startup failed miserably.

I don’t even believe in myself enough to try again.

I have a loving family and make north of $300k a year, by all accounts, everything should be great.

But I can’t shake the fact that all of this is completely meaningless.

We’re all completely fucked due to climate change anyhow.

Why is life even worth living anymore?

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sacrifice yourself to your family. you made a commitment, cannot back out. see, sinead oconnor did the proper thing: she stayed here for her son, hats up to her for the sacrifice.
My youngest brother built himself a special suicide shotgun after hours at work. That was 30 years ago.

You might as well understand that the reason lots of people in your life didn't go the same way us because they didn't want to hurt you. Return the favour!

You now know how people feel. Everyone can feel like that.

If anybody in this whole world is ever going to be happy it'll be because somebody got over their shit and decided that they wanted to be part of the solution.

Be part of the solution. There are wonderful rewards.

I wonder why should you feel this way for not reaching some kind of arbitrary standard?

What would you need to have to say "enough, now I'm content"?

For some there is no reachable achievement they will ever get because there is always someone who achieved more

You are slave of your own thoughts. What is the relevance of being a Stanford MBA? Or to be a YC founder in life if you do not know how to unlock the room that you are locked up. Get out there first and then look around you and discover that life is a survival game often dirty and learn to play it after all it's short and soon it will be over.
The significance of being a Stanford MBA or YC founder is entirely arbitrary and meaningful only to a small number of people in certain circles. I grew up in the Midwest. No one cares about such things there, and it may even be seen as a negative. It’s not some objectively significant measure of success, it’s only worth whatever weight you want to give it.

I have seen this line of thinking play out with several friends in the Bay Area: if you’re unhappy because of these of similar reasons, you’re being eaten alive by capitalism. It’s consumed your mind. If it’s to the point where you’re suicidal, you need to leave the bay (or wherever else you are that is making you feel this way). The rest of the world does not think like this. The way you are thinking is not reality. But it’s difficult to see through it when it surrounds you.

Chances are almost everyone you meet in life will not be a Stanford MBA grad, YC founder or a 30 under 30.

If you’re surrounded by pressure to achieve more than 99.9999% of people will achieve, try to find a different tribe. If you are pressuring yourself, then ask the simple question: “How does this serve me?”. If you don’t like the pressure and it’s making your life worse, then try something different.

Maybe start with some realistic goals that most people can relate to:

* run a 3k/5k/10k, etc.

* finish reading a famous novel

* travel to a new state or country

* learn to cook a new meal

Achieving simple goals might not make you rich or famous, but it will make you more relatable, which builds connection. Stronger connections means stronger support during tough times.

Thanks for reaching out for support. It sounds like you have the financial means to work with a therapist / life coach / spiritual teacher, etc. We get 1 life, so why not give it a try?

Please get professional counseling ASAP.

You are a success! Having a loving family and earning $300k+ -- that makes you far better off than 99% of the population. There are millions of broken families who are scrapping by on $30k. It is common advice not to compare yourself with others, but if you do look completely around yourself, you will find nothing but reasons to be grateful for what you have accomplished for yourself and those whom you love.

You make good money and you have people that depend upon and love you. If you suffer from depression (get that diagnosed) know that it will darken everything in your life, even that which brought you joy or made you proud will be turned against you, by way of guilt or contempt of yourself.

I speak from personal experience (I suffer from clinical depression) that with the right help (maybe medication but I am personally better off without it) you can move forward and have many moments in an incredible life.

Life is worth living because it's life.

I'm in a serious condition since a long time. No wife. No kids. Shitty Job. No possibility to overcome this. Nor, to change.

Had years of time to think about life. I come to a conclusion:

There is no meaning in life. No aim. Except, being there and helping the others, like parents or friends, neighbors..

Money, success, power - all of that isn't meaningful. Nice to have, though..

So, look at what you have. You have more than me. But I'm not regretting anything or I'm not jealous. I'm happy because I have the chance to live and make others smile.

Change your viewing perspective. Analyse what you have reached so far. See the faults and errors you've done. Think of how many others even dared to go the way you've gone. And you'll see - a fail isn't a fail, but rather a lesson and a chance.

Just keep going and see what you've accomplished and not where you've failed at. :)

First, I’m definitely not the right person to be suggesting anything, leave alone advice. However, I really hope my words will give you another perspective.

Your description hits me as if you are describing me, extremely close to me.

I had some successes very early in my career that propelled my ego and made me, in my wife’s word, “a heartless bloody bastard.”

After I had been failing one after the other in my attempts, punctuated with two (or is it three) tiny successes/exits. My wife is worried that with this much of failures and rejections, I’m not gone crazy and can still stay cool and nonchalant.

About Climate Change - that is the other thing - I think I have found my ultimate happy place, do something to help fight Climate Change. It may be a losing battle but I need to fight for my daughters.

Spend time with yours family, friends. Many usually advices to keep business and personal separate. I’d say, can you weave them so you are your ups and downs flow together and you can live with them.

Also meditation (perhaps guided) helps. My best friend (a neighbor whom I grew up with) died (of a curable sickness) after I ran off from my hometown for a better life. I will never forgive myself for not being there when he needed me. Whenever I take part of guided medication, the only thing I remember is our adventures along the shallow rivers which we did regularly while growing up (teen-years). I’m not happy, perhaps I’m sad but I feel at peace that I can vividly remember him, our conversations, acting out our Star Trek fantasies.

Please fight it out. Pick a cause - climate, friends, relations, family. Your aims and ambitions will be arbitrary for others but it is the ultimate scale to measure yourself against.

I’m not religious at all. However, my sister and her family is. When they are in my town, I’m the chauffeur that takes them to various templates and places of worship. I either read or stay silent and listen to some of the priest narrating sections of Mahabharata. The relatives are happy and I like that people around me are happy.

Finally, help others (founders, entrepreneurs, and many others) without expecting anything in return. Perhaps, the fun and adventurous part is to help others without letting them know you help them.

Life becomes lot more meaningful. These are the few notes from a tiny piece of my perspective. Please pick your own as I may come in “heartless” coming from a broken family, struggled/fought to eat/live since an early age, seen abysmal lows that anything that happens onwards are pretty high.

(Unedited and written at one-go as of 12:39 PM (India) on Aug 8, 2023.)

Welcome to adulthood.

You become a man, when you realize your failures....

It's gonna get easier from now on. And there is still life worth living.

Sucks beimg in the top 1% and not the top 0.01% huh?

Go find a cause to live for, chasing money only got you here. Goals should be about the kind of person you are, not your bank account. How will you be remembered?

Thank you for all the kind submissions everyone.

I’m doing alright and seeking professional help.

First - please seek some professional help immediately - you are not alone, and these feelings are common in people who've had a setback. Perhaps there's a slight chemical imbalance in your brain that needs to be reset - but only a professional can guide you there. Perhaps, all you need is some time to reflect and unwinds. Just don't make any rash decisions that have permanent consequences.

RE: startup failing.

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work." - Thomas Edison

Having a startup fail is, in itself, a success. At least you tried and with the failure, you learn things that you can use with the next startup.

Don't give up. There's so much negativity in the news we're not seeing the positive sides of things. Technology is advancing quickly and we're on the verge of a new age. It'd be a shame to not see how it turns out.