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Remember when some people were advocating others lose their jobs or be denied medical care if they chose not to get vaccinated?

Maybe we should reflect on that.

> advocating others lose their jobs or be denied medical care if they chose not to get vaccinated?

It wasn't just advocating, it happened to people.

Should we feel bad for folks who fell for misinformation campaigns, took horse meds, and as a result died...?
> took horse meds

You’re still doing that? Ok.

> immeasurably beneficial impact in improving the lives and welfare of billions of people

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043740/

Nice dodge, but just an example. Other examples would be the US president at the time suggesting using bleach.
Dude, keep these examples coming.

I hate defending the guy, but regardless of how dumb it was he was obviously hypothesizing, never mentioned bleach, and outright said "it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me". No one injected bleach or other disinfectant based on these comments.

> And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful."

I'm surprised you haven't mentioned hydroxychloroquine. There was that one case of someone dying after consuming fish tank cleaner.

I'm not denying some people died because of misinformation or their own stubborn biases, but the level to which people like yourself created your own misinformation, demonized people, built up straw men / caricatures was insane. Maybe it could be forgiven in the fog of war, but to double down and continue doing it at this point warrants some serious self-reflection.

Or we should reflect on myocarditis, and ignore people who lost their jobs for ill-defined anti-vaccination reasons.
shouldnt say this but. I honestly think the vaccine has caused persistent GERD for me. Since vaccination ive developed consrant reflux resulting in post nasal drip and it actually negatively impact my life (daily coughing). Before vax i dont think i had these issues. Im probably alone in this, but getting vax actually seems to have lowered my quality of life.
GERD is shit, and can emerge for lots of reasons. Mine came from my hypertension meds and then uplift to nexium to deal with that. My partner's comes from a herniated oesophagus which required keyhole surgery.

I'm not saying it wasn't the vaccine, I am saying its got a mixture of root causes and you might want to not discount them

Also: Get this treated. Constant reflux can trigger Barrat's disease which requires surgery, its potentially cancerous.

im not discounting them, im well aware there is nuance in everything. Even so, those are my thoughts
From the discussion in the paper:

> Viral myocarditis unrelated to mRNA COVID-19 vaccination are life-threatening conditions and have been reported to lead to heart failure and cardiac transplantation, or death [3]. Conversely, current scientific evidence shows that myocarditis related to COVID-19 vaccination result in a more favorable outcome with quicker resolution of symptoms [1], [2], [6].

Yet how much worse off would they be had they caught Covid instead of the vaccine?
who didn't have covid, vaccine or no?