Ask HN: What are some easy ways to earn some side money?
I am an experienced developer (11y) trying to earn some money on the side.
I am looking for some tips what could I do. The reason I said "easy" in the title is because I have a full time job, so I can't commit to multi-month projects full time.
I earned some good money on Topcoder before, but currently there are only a very few projects listed.
I am not a good speaker, so things like Youtube channel, or streaming is out of the picture, I am not comfortable uploading videos of myself.
I checked freelancer websites, but competition is crazy there (developing a full-fledged ecommerce web application for $100, and such)
Are there any other good websites like Topcoder? What do YOU do to earn money on the side?
Edit: For suggestions about the US: I am actually living in Canada. If you have any Canada specific, please suggest :)
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[ 5.8 ms ] story [ 235 ms ] threadBeekeeping can offer a relaxing, nature-oriented antidote to the stresses of coding, and moreover, there is a burgeoning market for smart apiary technology. Bee mortality rates have increased over recent years for numerous reasons, and technology is beginning to find ways to address these problems.
As a developer, you could design systems to monitor hive health, honey production levels or even bee activity. This data can be used to predict illnesses, optimize honey production, or understand more about bee behavior, providing valuable insights to the beekeeping community as well as researchers.
This unique combination of software development and beekeeping could potentially be a lucrative side gig. Not to mention, a proportion of the honey could be sold for additional profit or used for personal consumption.
So, while it may seem far fetched, your coding skills could help save the global bee population while offering a calming, profitable new hobby.
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On the other hand, you have the two worst possible problems: staking your money daily + chasing clients for money.
Unfortunately I am living in a house with a very small yard, so at the moment it is impossible for me to pursue bee keeping.
But, where can I learn more about this? What are the best resources?
If you do go this route: Buy used equipment, advertise swarm catching and try to get to a point where you're comfortable selling a few families each year (remember to have them checked for deceases before they leave your apiary).
I also saw nothing done in the experiment to separate whether the observed effects were caused by vibration, noise, or electromagnetic effects.
I sincerely read it with an open mind, but it doesn't look like a well-designed study.
"Electromagnetic radiation of mobile telecommunication antennas affects the abundance and composition of wild pollinators" https://pubag.nal.usda.gov/catalog/5196373
"Exposure to cell phone radiations produces biochemical changes in worker honey bees" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3052591/
"Distribution, diversity and abundance of some insects around a telecommunication mast in Ilorin, Kwara State, Nigeria" https://bnrc.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/s42269-021-00...
"Electromagnetic radiation as an emerging driver factor for the decline of insects" (review) https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S00489...
"Biological effects of electromagnetic fields on insects" (review) https://ehtrust.org/wp-content/uploads/Thill_Review_Insects_...
"Effects of non-ionizing electromagnetic fields on flora and fauna, part 1. Rising ambient EMF levels in the environment" (review) https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1515/reveh-2021-00...
"Effects of non-ionizing electromagnetic fields on flora and fauna, Part 2 impacts: how species interact with natural and man-made EMF" (review) https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1515/reveh-2021-00...
"Effects of non-ionizing electromagnetic fields on flora and fauna, Part 3. Exposure standards, public policy, laws, and future directions" (review) https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1515/reveh-2021-00...
Are you at the top of the total comp band for your level ?
See levels.fyi
Now learning stuff like AI, or Cyber Security could, but that's a very long process, and basically a change of careers. (I'm not against that, but wouldn't call that "easy")
> Imagine being able to build an app like Airbnb in a weekend.
I really doubt that's possible.
> Future-proof your resume
By concentrating your skills in one platform that's probably not going to exist in 2 years?
I do think there needs to be fewer people who crumble when they have to write SQL so maybe it's not all bad.
However, you know how to hold a job. You've had one for 11+ years. So, just get a second one. You could be making double your current salary within as little as 4-6 weeks after interviews etc. That's likely the fastest path if you need money quickly.
For starters google “piercing the corporate veil”.
I can't see it working in any other way. I've heard about this before, but I think you need a huge amount of luck to make this work.
Edit: I mean yeah, if you are willing to work 14-16 hours you can make it work, by landing the jobs in different time zones.
Which is not to say that it’s a bad idea necessarily for the stated goal.
People who advocate "hustle culture" tend to not have very lucrative main jobs, or no upward mobility in their current role. So they look for weird "hacks" to make a few bucks on the side, like drop-shipping garbage or starting some weird self-help YouTube channel. In the world of engineering, I think it's way more useful to focus on your core skillset and learn new things around that.
That said, boringcashcow.com has inspired me to try to come up with a simple programming project that could turn over 4 figures a month. It made me realize in software you can just go for base hits, not home runs, and still make plenty of money.
Yes. I have no promotion prospects and no new-job prospects, so I do what I have to do to survive: make my own way, with my own "side hustles".
Would you mind sharing more details? Story? What is the app? I am really curious :) If no, that's fine, thanks for the tip anyways. I will definitely check out the website. My biggest problem is coming up with ideas for an app/business.
[1] https://www.indiehackers.com/products?commitment=side-projec...
[2] https://acquire.com/buyers/
[3] https://app.centurica.com/marketwatch
I'm in the same boat. For me at least, I assume that any app that's making money must have been created by someone with much better skills than me. Someone shared that website on HN a few weeks ago and they just blog about various solo developer projects that earn 4-6 figures a month. Seeing those projects gives me ideas and confidence to try something myself.
Its like when a writer starts to write something they have a writer block
Take hourly projects instead of fixed price.
1. it is not positive expectancy (because naive strategies like this never are)
2. it involves trading in less liquid instruments, which means you lose more money to transaction fees
3. you're _selling_ options. Even if these are covered in theory, there's so much scope to screw this up implementation-wise, that it's just not worth it.
I see no redeeming features for this particular "strategy".
AI would interest me, but it would take many years of learning I guess. I am not very good at math, so I would have to re-learn that.
For the same surface-level stuff, yeah. Other, in-depth issues, not so much.
> people show off their massive payment bug find, but in reality its hours of work for almost no payout
They don't advertise it as some "get money quick" thing just because they show off their payouts.
I occasionally find issues which make me $100, $200, $300 for a few minutes of work, it's not much but it's something.
My first company (Skritter.com) fits this mold. It's been growing slowly, but steadily for more than 15 years now. In the first couple of years we were able to generate low five-figures per month, now it's substantially higher.
There are other ways to earn cash outside of tech, but most of the common suggestions (drop shipping, affiliate marketing, laundromats, etc) are mostly terrible if you really do the analysis.
For better or worse, low risk generally means low upside!
My problem is I am very bad at coming up with a business idea in the first place. (or app idea, or website idea...) I am not sure why, probably my brain is wired differently.
Shameless plug, but I write semi-regular "Steal This Business Idea" posts on my blog. This is an example: https://overthinkingmoney.com/2023/04/25/steal-this-startup-... They're all examples of businesses that I think have promise, but I don't have the skills, experience, insight or all three to execute.
The difference here is you're not betting with leverage. Modest, high probability returns.
If this didn't make sense and to be super clear. You described buying an option and attempting to sell it later. This is not what I'm describing. I'm describing selling and option to open
Mentoring is easy, vs. say starting Dropbox
[1] https://github.com/malgamves/CommunityWriterPrograms
Thanks for the tip. I might give this a shot. This is something that fits my needs, you can do it in your own pace, remotely, gig work. would be perfect if I was a good writer (and native English speaker haha)
1. Are you doing everything you can to put yourself on an upwards trajectory towards a promotion and/or a raise? You spend most of your waking hours on your current job, and the easiest way to increase your life time earnings is bending the curve here.
2. Have you been interviewing to make sure you're getting fair market value and have? If you are not growing as well as you're capable of in your current role, a new role is a potential option. This introduces risk.
3. Have you taking a knife to your expense list and maxed out 401k and HSA contributions? Every dollar you don't contribute there is one that you're giving away to the government, so make sure you're using all the tools available to optimize.
4. Have you begun to invest in real estate? In the USA, the existence of federally backed homebuyer loans and 1031 swaps is an incredible tool to build wealth, and the leverage from the loan is even partially tax deductible on the interest side. You of course need to be careful here given the choppy state of the macro environment and real estate market so that you don't end up underwater.
5. Are you investing surplus earnings into a safe ETF? Ensuring that your earnings are working for you making passive income from the market is critical for long term earnings.
None of these approaches are quick fixes, but they're all time tested approaches than anyone can use.
So, I looked at all the certifications available and plotted a path through them that gets me the minimum amount of points required to reach the highest bonus tier each fiscal year. It's been, by _far_, the most lucrative "side hustle" i've ever had. I study for, and take, about 4-5 cert tests per year and am on year #2 of the program. If they run the program for 5 years and I keep dropping the whole bonus into my investment account I'll have enough to pay for college for both of my boys (currently in middle school).
/I'm 47 and still paying my student loan, i don't want that hell for my kids.
Seek out local folks who wants to go online selling their tupperware, tobaco, small services, books, photos, small mom-n-pop coffee/fastfood shops etc and offer to build them a site they can maintain.
Then buy them a subscription on no-code sites(wix, weebly, squarespace etc) and get a commission for the initial setup. Worked for my nephew who just wanted something he could do on the nights to save up some money for his summer vacation. He still gets referral offers from folks who are happy with their sites and their friends also want similar sites.
I tried this before, but the problem is, the reason many people/businesses have shitty websites is that they are not willing to spend money on it. I approached a few local shops (e.g. a comic book store) to create a cool website for them for a few hundred bucks, but they wanted it for free. If I would be a junior developer looking for stuff to my portfolio, sure. But I'm not, and not willing to work for free for anybody.
However, I might have given up too easily. I think I'll give this another shot
I think this price range will push away serious businesses. I knew a consulting company that had hard time getting customers when they were charging under $1000 for simple WordPress sites. They had better luck when they raised their prices to $5000. It was 10 years ago for simple WordPress sites.
Providing a cheap service yo a business -requires- that you deliver a cheap product.
A much better approach us to do the website for free, but get paid commission on its value. Take a tiny piece of online sales, run specials on the site and measure foot-traffic in the store and so on.
People get paid to -add value-. To get easy money you need to figure out what the customer values (for a shop it's usually sales) then figure out how to increase those sales, then take the risk, and actions, to accomplish that.
A much better return is expected by building a web site to sell the product or service yourself. Wether it's tobacco, tupperware, books etc.
The reason these shops couldn’t do it themselves is not in software expertise. They just couldn’t work properly. Not all people are successful merchants. When I learned how they did accounting, it made me laugh: they simply called the guy and asked for money. They didn’t know how much money there is, most of them simply relied on the guy’s accounting, trusting him absolutely. He took not only web expertise from them, he took everything except producing or importing goods, including pricing. This worked because of his religion, he was very serious about no mistake in accounting, cause they are basically his brothers under god. Both sides were happy about that.
Wait tables. A lot of service based businesses are struggling to find good staff. Go for a higher end high average ticket place, and or places that close relatively early so you're not stuck there too late.
Usually at first there's not a lot of quality shifts open but also, frequently, you can pick up shifts from other people and a lot of restaurants are okay with having a few staff who have few regular shifts but whom they can rely on in a pinch. You can make decent cash. The work can be pretty "fun" and the time tends to go pretty quick.
The issue for me is that, since I’m not in the development world, I don’t have any mentors or people to talk to and bounce ideas off of. I’ve been looking into getting an internship at a software company but those are rare for evening time remote work since that’s all I would be able to lend my self to because of my full time job.
I think I’m heading the right way but there’s just hurdles that need to be jumped over.
All that to say, try a different field than software development? A reverse of what I’m doing?
I don't have problems with learning and building the apps, my problem is how to come up with an app idea that people would actually use, and I could monetize it somehow.
But coming up with that idea, executing it correctly and having a whole lot of luck is out of reach for the majority.
I wouldn't underestimate the luck part though even if you do come up with a brilliant well executed idea.
I've acquaintances who spent years trying to commercialise side projects that have eventually come to nothing. A lot of disappointment but I guess you've got to put the hours in and try something to even have a chance.
Personally always thought the idea of something low key with a continuous income stream sounded the most realistic, as others in this thread allude to. But you still need the idea, the execution and the luck.
For me, I got a lot of exposure to these problems in the time I spent working at startups using technology to solve big problems in large industries that aren't conventionally "tech" but this is a long term play; it took me a decade of doing this to start to develop a perspective on where my previous companies, as great of a job as they did, still left certain problems unsolved, problems I would go on to solve at my own company. This isn't a quick solution to your problem but it does work.