They're all in pretty amazing condition. Deep, still, low-oxygen fresh water is much better at preserving a wreck than anything in saltwater.
The boat probably rotted more in the 20 years during which it was unmaintained, exposed to the sun and weather on the surface, than it did during the 150 years it spent on the bottom of the lake.
That's because the Great Lakes are massive. Lake Superior alone is the largest freshwater lake in the world. It's effectively a sea where wave heights can reach 25 feet (7.6 meters). Winter storms can sink bulk freighters (1).
I grew up in Wisconsin and no one took Lake Superior lightly. The song "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" (2) is part of the region's legends and history.
Ah but many people think Michigan/Huron should be considered one lake, in which case it would be largest by area and volume I think. It's a valid point given they are connected by a straight that is 5 miles wide at the narrowest and not very long and also very deep. Their levels are the same because they are essentially the same body of water.
Awesome! That web viewer kind of sucks but the model is amazing.
Here's where they messed up: the orbit is backwards. Clicking and dragging has very well defined behavior: if you drag to the left, then the thing you are interacting with should move to the left, but in their viewer the camera rotates to the left, so the world rotates to the right, which is backwards!
>> Here's where they messed up: the orbit is backwards. Clicking and dragging has very well defined behavior: if you drag to the left, then the thing you are interacting with should move to the left, but in their viewer the camera rotates to the left, so the world rotates to the right, which is backwards!
It works the way you want for me. I drag left, the boat rotates left. Also, while I agree with you that this is how it should work and is the "one true way", I can tell you from working on CAD that there is a whole world of people out there that want the camera to move based on mouse movement. In their mind, moving the object is as strange as moving the camera is for me. It seems there is no "right" way, just a few different ways.
Edit: Oh it's worse. They are using turntable navigation.
> Trinidad’s owners didn’t invest much in the vessel’s upkeep and her career was relatively short for her era.
> There, Captain Higgins told his story to the marine reporters. Loathe to blame the owners, Higgins speculated that the schooner’s hull may have been cut by ice in the Straits of Mackinac. However, a review of the vessel’s career suggests that she was little more than a floating coffin by the time of her final voyage. Most vessels of the Trinidad’s era lasted twice as long as she did, but they also received regular recaulking and replacement of decayed or rotten wood and rigging. The insurance records suggest that Trinidad received little of the normal maintenance and was essentially sailed into the bottom of the Lake.
A classic tale of capitalist barbarism and how American workers are manipulated and propagandized into shilling for their masters. Disgusting stuff, and sadly nothing has fundamentally changed in over 150 years.
might not be so casual since it's probably sunk at great depth, though the article doesn't mention that. I mean, beyond 10m/33ft isn't out of bounds for a trained deep water diver, but perhaps a bit outside the standard recreational stuff, which tends to stay above the 1 atmosphere pressure depth
The updated link says it’s at 300 ft and once it’s on the National Register of Historic Places it will be a protected place. Then it’s location will be revealed.
I grew up near Algoma and the article is right, I’d never heard of this shipwreck. That said the Door Penninsula is littered with shipwrecks and people there do take their maritime history seriously. Very cool find.
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However, I am sure they spend more effort on capturing impressions. In this context, I sympathize even less with advertisers.
The boat probably rotted more in the 20 years during which it was unmaintained, exposed to the sun and weather on the surface, than it did during the 150 years it spent on the bottom of the lake.
I grew up in Wisconsin and no one took Lake Superior lightly. The song "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" (2) is part of the region's legends and history.
1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Edmund_Fitzgerald
2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuzTkGyxkYI
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Baikal
I just always think of this image when I hear Superior is the "biggest" and it really adds some interesting perspective
https://imageio.forbes.com/blogs-images/startswithabang/file...
https://www.shipwreckworld.com/articles/discovery-of-the-his...
Here's where they messed up: the orbit is backwards. Clicking and dragging has very well defined behavior: if you drag to the left, then the thing you are interacting with should move to the left, but in their viewer the camera rotates to the left, so the world rotates to the right, which is backwards!
I think it's a pretty standard paradigm when viewing 3d models as an editor (vs games and virtual house tours and such) isn't it? Felt intuitive to me
Oh my, so much better. Thanks!
It works the way you want for me. I drag left, the boat rotates left. Also, while I agree with you that this is how it should work and is the "one true way", I can tell you from working on CAD that there is a whole world of people out there that want the camera to move based on mouse movement. In their mind, moving the object is as strange as moving the camera is for me. It seems there is no "right" way, just a few different ways.
Edit: Oh it's worse. They are using turntable navigation.
> There, Captain Higgins told his story to the marine reporters. Loathe to blame the owners, Higgins speculated that the schooner’s hull may have been cut by ice in the Straits of Mackinac. However, a review of the vessel’s career suggests that she was little more than a floating coffin by the time of her final voyage. Most vessels of the Trinidad’s era lasted twice as long as she did, but they also received regular recaulking and replacement of decayed or rotten wood and rigging. The insurance records suggest that Trinidad received little of the normal maintenance and was essentially sailed into the bottom of the Lake.
A classic tale of capitalist barbarism and how American workers are manipulated and propagandized into shilling for their masters. Disgusting stuff, and sadly nothing has fundamentally changed in over 150 years.
I'm sure if that was a thing you'd have people trying to scratch their names in the walls and stealing items inside the wreck though. :(