Seems like a candid conversation got taken out of context. I get that it was insensitive, but it seems like they were having a private conversation about the value of a judgement in a potential lawsuit or settlement. If this was a public conversation or release it would be wildly inappropriate. In private it's just some people that are not very sensitive. Should they have prefaced every sentence in the discussion with a disclaimer about what a tragedy it is, etc?
I'm generally the first to jump on law enforcement for misbehavior, and I'm sure the guy that killed her will be treated way more leniently than a civilian. I think this is a little blown out of proportion though, and focusing on the interpretation of the words "limited value".
Seems like this is a pattern of misconduct from this cop[1], who is also the VP of his police union:
> 2010: Auderer was one of several officers who stopped two Mexican immigrants under a false pretext. The officers were caught on camera verbally abusing them and roughly arresting them. One of the officers, Corey Williams, infamously threatened to “skull fuck” the pair. (He’s now the sergeant of crisis response.)
> 2010: Auderer was one of a dozen officers who savagely beat Brian Torgerson, a mentally ill man, causing permanent brain damage. SPD settled with Torgerson’s family for $1.75 million.
> 2014: Auderer received another complaint from a woman he arrested, who claimed he sexually harassed her in a holding cell. There was no audio of the incident, so OPA issued a training referral.
> 2015: Auderer punched and choked a homeless man inside the ER at Harborview Hospital. SPD’s Force Review Board ruled that the force was unjustified, but OPA ultimately cleared him.
> 2016: OPA investigated Auderer for using force against a Black woman while she was handcuffed. This is prohibited by SPD policy unless there are “exceptional circumstances.” OPA ruled that the force use—which occurred conveniently beyond the view of the in-car video—was “lawful and proper.”
> 2016: OPA investigated Auderer again for punching a woman in the face. He was cleared of any wrongdoing
> 2016: Auderer was suspended for four days for taking part in an arrest while on an off-duty ridealong with his brother, who is an officer in another jurisdiction. He violated the person’s Miranda rights & failed to report the arrest to a supervisor.
> 2018: Auderer was reprimanded for making demeaning, unnecessary comments about a woman’s mental health during a traffic stop.
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[ 3.0 ms ] story [ 98.0 ms ] threadI'm generally the first to jump on law enforcement for misbehavior, and I'm sure the guy that killed her will be treated way more leniently than a civilian. I think this is a little blown out of proportion though, and focusing on the interpretation of the words "limited value".
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Seems like this is a pattern of misconduct from this cop[1], who is also the VP of his police union:
> 2010: Auderer was one of several officers who stopped two Mexican immigrants under a false pretext. The officers were caught on camera verbally abusing them and roughly arresting them. One of the officers, Corey Williams, infamously threatened to “skull fuck” the pair. (He’s now the sergeant of crisis response.)
> 2010: Auderer was one of a dozen officers who savagely beat Brian Torgerson, a mentally ill man, causing permanent brain damage. SPD settled with Torgerson’s family for $1.75 million.
> 2014: Auderer received another complaint from a woman he arrested, who claimed he sexually harassed her in a holding cell. There was no audio of the incident, so OPA issued a training referral.
> 2015: Auderer punched and choked a homeless man inside the ER at Harborview Hospital. SPD’s Force Review Board ruled that the force was unjustified, but OPA ultimately cleared him.
> 2016: OPA investigated Auderer for using force against a Black woman while she was handcuffed. This is prohibited by SPD policy unless there are “exceptional circumstances.” OPA ruled that the force use—which occurred conveniently beyond the view of the in-car video—was “lawful and proper.”
> 2016: OPA investigated Auderer again for punching a woman in the face. He was cleared of any wrongdoing
> 2016: Auderer was suspended for four days for taking part in an arrest while on an off-duty ridealong with his brother, who is an officer in another jurisdiction. He violated the person’s Miranda rights & failed to report the arrest to a supervisor.
> 2018: Auderer was reprimanded for making demeaning, unnecessary comments about a woman’s mental health during a traffic stop.
[1] https://divestspd.substack.com/p/spog-vice-presidents-weird-...
Source - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37504169