Ask HN: How are so many fake ads allowed on YouTube?
The production quality is good enough to cheat eg. my parents, but it doesn't take me 2 seconds to spot it, so I'm amazed it can go on.
Anyone with background insights into the approval / reporting procedure or knowledge of if Google just doesn't care?
I also assume there must be a healthy business for someone, producing these commercials for companies so eager for attention - could they maybe be called out?
For instance, the one triggering me to make this post was of Elon Musk, unveiling some trading platform leading to this site[1], where the video in the ad can also be seen. I have no idea how to link to the youtube ads, but if I did I would have collected a loonng list of fakes by now.
[1] https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-tucker-carlson-elon-musk/fact-check-tucker-carlson-segment-on-elon-musk-quantum-ai-is-fake-idUSL1N3A90N2
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Elon Musk deepfake talking about some AI garbage, but the interesting thing about this video is that:
- There isn't a product being promoted per se.
- The channel running this ad doesn't have any links on its channel.
- The company practically doesn't exist that is running the ad.
And I have seen a few others while going through Shorts, so it's definitely something that is either hard for them to monitor, or they haven't yet bothered to look into it in-depth.
Recently, I have grown to learn that free speech might also include flat out lies that further your own addenda and be about companies not just governments.
All that is to say, that YouTube ads for bogus Amazon strategies and miracle weightloss and hearing plans and now deep fake sponsorships are here because giant companies no longer vet anything and if they did, certain segments of our society will complain that they are being censored.
I got fed animal cruelty a number of times in the early days of shorts. Maybe it thought I was interested from the one I must have lingered on to report it.
At least I can scroll YT Shorts on public transit. No matter how many times I'm saying "not interested on" half-naked girls, and it not being relevant to anything I'm following on Insta, I get it all the time..
Featuring yoga poses, back lit crotch shots, and women wearing electrical tape on the cat walk.
I cant seem to make them stop no matter what I do. Probably because I coach a womans sport and watch a lot of that sport on youtube.
"Oh you watch womens sports, you must want to see these videos of models wearing nothing but tape!"
Are you sure that's a fake? That seems pretty on brand...
Mr. Beast's shtick is both genius and so dumb to me. Like, the entire premise of his videos is money-money-money.
I mean, of course he's going to get some views with that formula. And yeah, I know he really does have a good understanding of how YT's audience works and how to target it. He's talked about his grinding rise to fame for years now.
But still, he didn't really attack the human mind, he just is playing off of our base impulses. He's the Publisher's Clearing House commercials but for YT. It's not adding anything to the world except base entertainment (a worthy thing in the right circumstances, of course).
I don't know, he found his edge (money! YT!) and has dogged it relentlessly. And that's great for him.
But, I dunno, I feel like his talents are larger than that. That he can make some really good stuff that will last longer than all of us.
Pff, you can moderate content of people who are paying you money. Surely each of these is getting reported like crazy as well.
https://www.asa.org.uk/news/like-comment-and-comply-youtube-...
(not that this does very much, since the outcome is very rarely actual fines, just a requirement to stop running the ad)
The crypto bro ads are hilarious and it looks like they all use the same platform. I wonder if all of them are part of a ponzi scheme in which someone sells a course to sell crypto courses.
Something I do, which is a bit silly, is to click the ad just to burn money from the scammers.
> Built atop uBlock Origin, AdNauseam quietly clicks on every blocked ad, registering a visit on ad networks' databases.
[0]: https://adnauseam.io/
For a while I've been thinking of setting a VM that navigates the interwebs clicking on random links to generate tracking noise. I need to find out how to do that :D.
And give it to Google? I don't know which is worse.
I personally think they know this about kids being addicted to YouTube too. I see so so so many kids in my life spend hours on end watching Minecraft videos and the likes. I get it, "the parents"!!! However if a child's parents don't have the time to police their kids internet usage, they fall victim to this pray very, very easily.
I have some friends who don't have a lot of money and they both work together running a cafe. The kids basically have to look after themselves because the parents are just too busy working. The kids just spend practically all their free time watching this shit.
Google cannot be so naive.
Most of these fake gurus have been exposed but YouTube keeps running their ad.
Google has become a toilet of the Internet. The ad quality and quantity have degraded severely this year. I still think that based on how much they’re selling out any remaining trust or brand quality, they must be secretly struggling in a very bad way.
They must have a terrible conversion rate but they do OK because you can never unsubscribe once you get signed up unless you are really well connected and can call your congressman who can call the president who can call the joint chiefs of staff who can sic the navy SEALs on their ass.
Oh, wait, I do understand. It’s because criminal law is only really meant for the little people who sold some marijuana and not the corporations facilitating massive worldwide fraud.
If I help personally defraud one person? Straight to jail. But Google helps defraud millions of people? Here please take some more taxpayer cash.
The rich are usually not so narcissistic they will only let sycophants work for them, so they dot their i's and cross their t's correctly. There's a lot of room for being sneaky in ways most of us disapprove of before it crosses into criminal.
However, we've also had Bernie Madoff and… wow, this is a long list of American politicians convicted of fraud:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:American_politicians_...
I've only noticed four overlap on the subcategory of mail and wire fraud, too:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Politicians_convicted...
And at the time of writing, this list is disjoint also:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Politicians_convicted...
(Though looking at the details, that isn't what I would've expected from the description "American politicians convicted of" as a Canadian is included; technically yes, and I won't speak either way as to if I think you should count that).
I would have thought this thread was overblown had I not inadvertently done that a few weeks ago. But it was truly surprising just how awful the “untailored” ads were.
Unlike the rest of my family, I generally don't watch YouTube, but when I do, it's almost always from something other than a smart TV[0] and I rarely watch videos on my phone[1] (though on my device, I think I'm ad-free there, too).
In a way, it's a lot more of the same. Internet advertising has been a cesspool ... I'm old enough to remember scantily clad women holding X10 devices[2] (usually cameras) in pop-under ads, along with "cyber cash", online casinos and the like. I used to selectively unblock sites that I didn't want to starve of advertising revenue but that stopped when ads became a popular way to deliver malware. Once that became a thing, the gauntlet went down -- I stopped feeling even the slightest bit of guilt about filtering.
I can't say it's (at all) surprising. The scammers have a system where they can produce a large volume of trash at a low cost and make a profit on a few (often naive/elderly/other) poor souls. There's the usual "policing content is orders of magnitude harder than producing it", "lack of sufficient penalty on those producing the ads" combined with lack of sufficient pressure/penalty on those displaying the ads to police them well enough[3]. It's so bad now that you could do exactly what you said -- Google could, literally, run a script to capture the ads from 10 minutes of incognito play, ban them all and would catch, maybe one?, that isn't a law/terms of service violation. Some of these ads make the offers appearing in my spam folder look about as trustworthy.
Add into that "I'm the problem, too" in that rather than "making a lot of noise about this issue", I simply implement ever-more complex ways of eliminating advertising from my life wherever it exists. Due to filtering, I rarely see advertisements that aren't of the "product placement" or physically unavoidable variety (billboards/physical advertising in public spaces, though I'm sure mixed reality will let me wipe those out one day, too[4]).
My kids, however, watch YouTube and similar services far more than they watch traditional streaming/TV and they do so on devices that I haven't taken the time to censor. Much worse, however, is the advertisements included in "the dumb game of the week" installed to one of their devices. It got so bad that I put a blanket family rule of "do not install anything on your device without asking me, first." As I have teenagers, now, about the only way I've been able to enforce that rule is "your device gets malware, it gets a factory reset and I provide no help getting the thing restored." About twice a year they get that hard reminder. It doesn't help much.
[0] Hell, for that matter, I don't watch TikTok or other social media videos at all
[1] A story worthy of another post but modern smart phones seem to do something to the audio that when anything is played out of the speaker that isn't "a ring-tone", it has an aspect to it that sounds like "fingernails on a chalkboard." It bothers me so much that if I'm dealing with a Migraine headache the sound coming out of the speaker results in my symptoms amplifying about as badly as if I looked directly at a bright light source -- it's caused me to spontaneously run to the bathroom to vomit before.
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X10_Wireless_Technology
[3] Which, were the penalties big enough would also -- due to "policing content is orders of ma...
Some algorithm decided it is good to show during cartoons vasectomy ad. This is weird enough, but somehow I can understand this failed reasoning (kids -> tired parents -> no more kids -> vasectomy).
But this ad consisted only from one slide presenting intersection of penis and nothing more. For long seconds my kids were staring at it before I reacted and turned it off.
I also reported this to my country's authorities and I got some answer they gave Google some fine for this.
Not the first time I've felt like this in the last 12 months either.
Edit: Come to think of it, maybe the content is some type of concealed advertising ?
I find youtube unusable with ads on so I only open it on a desktop with uBlock Origin.