Ask HN: I found that I often have a lazy day after productive day
I study at college. Getting my degree in Data Analytics. I study programming almost every day and as many students I also work part time. But in the last 6 months I found that I often live in a cycle where I have a productive day and the next day is lazy. So, I find it super unattractive to do anything. Then it repeats again and again.
Have you ever experienced something like this? What would you recommend me to do to get out of this cycle?
P.S. I push myself to do stuff on the bad days to gain that ‘work flow’. But it doesn’t feel like it helps me. Because of low energy levels on lazy days I do things slowly, I can’t concentrate on things and so on.
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[ 3.5 ms ] story [ 69.4 ms ] threadWhat you're going through is something I'm dealing with now -- one of the side effects of some health conditions is temporary (or permanent) changes in endurance. One of the difficulties I have faced is accepting the days when I'm less productive and moving on in the hopes the following day will be better.
You're a human, myself include.
It's a reminder that we're not a relentless robot. We need "lazy", like in lazy computation. It's a good default optimization strategy.
Have a good day.
I try to make up for it on productive days by being very productive or extra creative.
The important part is to handle the life admin and low prio stuff on the lazy days if you can so you can clear your time for the peak days. Usually I try to follow my lazy and then get curious.
Working remote helps with this since my output averages out over the week, and I can still have peak days without a manager bugging me or having to be in an office. Some lazy days are on the couch, but then a golden hour / brain wave of good work can happen. If I was chained to a desk it doesn't happen.
I think it's natural and speaks to the reality that we cannot operate at an all-out 100% continuously.
Use the downtime as an opportunity for self care, physical health, and low mental output tasks so that when the peak comes again you're not distracted by trivial things.
That's a good thing to keep in mind!
Maybe also: understand that colleagues are not always at the peak of this cycle.
I think society/ourselves have put arbitrary time barriers in our days where things occur - meals, bedtimes, work days, etc. Sometimes it would be nice if you find yourself in a "flow" state to just ignore all of those barriers and roll with it for a while. Its like some days you just aren't that hungry or you sleep much longer/shorter. We are animals after all and sometimes believe we can control things to the point of robotic measurable output when our bodies tell us otherwise.
Cycles are inherent to nature and humans are natural. Planets move cyclically. We experience day followed by nite and the seasons change (in most places anyway). I'm of the opinion that taking time off is natural. It's what agriculture has naturally 'demanded' of farmers (or used it before tech disrupted things) for eons.
Of course there's a spectrum as well -> we all have varying levels of 'passion' - some prefer depth and can go for a long time. Some prefer more breadth over depth. Both kinds of people have their value and probably need each other in a symbiotic way.
Just try to find the balance that fits your personality.
The funny thing is, he told someone he thought I was the worst programmer he'd ever worked with because I didn't come in and grind out hundreds of lines of code each day. Maybe he was right but, I suspect he had that opinion of other people at the company that didn't meet his skewed standard.
This could be proven/disproven with some metrics about your average productivity and productivity on 'lazy' days.
Yes, regularly. Yesterday was a lazy day for me. Today was a productive day.
> What would you recommend me to do to get out of this cycle?
I don’t have a solution. I’ve learned to live with it. I’m on ADHD meds and they help, but they don’t prevent the lazy days.
On your productive days you will often have ancillary thoughts - that document needs updating, its been a while since I read up on subject X, that server needs patching, this section of the config parser needs to be more robust, little tidy-up tasks that create more order in your workspace, these tasks are like the monks cleaning the house, they are restorative and meditative, but not cognitively burdening.
Write these down in whatever method suits you. Then they are outside of your working memory. On your less productive days, pick a few that seem appealing to you, and do them.
Lastly, not every moment must be productive, sometimes you actually need rest, life is about balance.
Have you tried examining what it is that actually gets you to work on those productive days? I wonder if you’re glossing over that part while you focus on what’s getting you into those unproductive days. Are you waiting until you get to sort of a critical mass, until feeling lazy feels bad enough that you can’t handle it anymore, and that’s your motivation for getting back towards being productive? If that’s the case, it might be worth contemplating how sustainable that is for you, and if there’s anything more sustainable you could use for motivation.
If you aren’t keeping up, I’d try working less on your productive days and see if you can spread out the work more evenly. Take more time for yourself. Exercise, sleep, eat, socialize.
Basically for me this "day of productivity" can extend to up to 3 days, but yes the cycle in general is always to some degree: Productive -> Lazy -> Something inbetween -> Productive -> ...
I know that doesn't adapt to student life at all. Back when I needed to get productive ashwaghanda and later prescription amphetamines were helpful. But that led me directly into a burnout so I wouldn't recommend going the amphetamine route. Ash is amazing still
Your mind has limited capacity for diffucult mental work. After you have used it all, you need time to restore yourself.
You can use several strategies:
There is not much else that could be done, you can over extend yourself so you could become sick or burn out. But I don't think that it is best for you in the long termLove, Emma
Edit: formatting, I am new to the editor on this site
Passion is the opposite, you have to expend willpower to not do the thing. Once you do the thing, you end up with more energy.
Passion can be destructive in many situations though, especially jobs where your work may be writing docs, meetings, demos, and not doing the thing. So highly passionate people in "the corporation" end up feeling more drained than disciplined people.
But basically what you're seeing is a comparison between the two, instead of seeing it as a normal thing like the sleep/wake cycle.
I tried a bit the discipline part, but that doesn't work for me. If I don't like it, I can not motivate myself to do it. If I like it, I can't stop.