So this is the long-awaited announcement on the fruits of Qualcomm's Nuvia acquisition a few years ago. The main and only relevant question is how it'll measure up against the Apple M3, AMD Z2, and Intel Meteor Lake chips next year.
Interesting that there's no hint of its relative single-thread performance. Wonder how the custom Oryon core stacks up against the ARM vanilla X4.
Naturally, the target market for Qualcomm are Windows ARM laptops that regular consumers can buy at the local shopping mall, or Android devices.
With luck, maybe one of the ChromeOS might decide to use it, although given the capabilities of Web based software would probably be a waste in hardware capabilities.
Not sure where youre getting "chrome os is wasted on high performance" from. Chrome OS still sucks on arm devices and is still bad on celerons. You need an i5 w/8gb of ram just like any other machine.
Historically, the bottleneck in all CPU's -- has been the speed at which data can be transferred from/to main memory.
A large on-board CPU cache -- solves that for smaller programs whose code and data can entirely fit into that cache.
But for larger programs whose code and data do not fit entirely into a CPU's cache -- the bottleneck is "how fast does it read/write from main memory?".
Here, for the Qualcomm Snapdragon X Elite -- we are given a figure for that, of 136GB/sec.
Is it really that fast? Well, future benchmarking to confirm that number will have to take place. But if it really is that fast -- then that would be pretty respectable for a 2023 consumer CPU...
Though I know the CPU itself has nothing to do with how the manufacturers build the laptops - I hope to dog that they make laptops that are as nice to use as the MBPs.
High quality track pads, great high refresh screens, tiny adapters (or just use your mobile phone charger) and fantastic battery life.
First class Linux support would make a "must buy" device.
If they deliver on that, other than compatibility, it would be the best portable development environment available. Combine that with FEX and Proton, it might prove to be a competent gaming device.
So much potential here, I shouldn't get my hopes up...
> I hope to dog that they make laptops that are as nice to use as the MBPs.
Judging from previous ARM laptops, I can't see that happening. There is no way to make Windows be as nice to use as macOS.
> First class Linux support would make a "must buy" device.
That'd be my only hope, but I'm not holding my breath.
Unless it offers significantly better experience for the same amount of money, as much as I dislike the x86, it's hard to beat. Apple does it by offering exactly that.
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With luck, maybe one of the ChromeOS might decide to use it, although given the capabilities of Web based software would probably be a waste in hardware capabilities.
I hope it's true because it sounds pretty amazing. AMD may have to release an arm chip too or they will be pushed out of the consumer market
A large on-board CPU cache -- solves that for smaller programs whose code and data can entirely fit into that cache.
But for larger programs whose code and data do not fit entirely into a CPU's cache -- the bottleneck is "how fast does it read/write from main memory?".
Here, for the Qualcomm Snapdragon X Elite -- we are given a figure for that, of 136GB/sec.
Is it really that fast? Well, future benchmarking to confirm that number will have to take place. But if it really is that fast -- then that would be pretty respectable for a 2023 consumer CPU...
Otherwise, as a Linux user, I'd have to stick with x86.
High quality track pads, great high refresh screens, tiny adapters (or just use your mobile phone charger) and fantastic battery life.
First class Linux support would make a "must buy" device.
If they deliver on that, other than compatibility, it would be the best portable development environment available. Combine that with FEX and Proton, it might prove to be a competent gaming device.
So much potential here, I shouldn't get my hopes up...
Judging from previous ARM laptops, I can't see that happening. There is no way to make Windows be as nice to use as macOS.
> First class Linux support would make a "must buy" device.
That'd be my only hope, but I'm not holding my breath.
Unless it offers significantly better experience for the same amount of money, as much as I dislike the x86, it's hard to beat. Apple does it by offering exactly that.