Show HN: JellyBox – Jellyfin Desktop Client (testflight.apple.com)
Hey guys, so I've been working on native desktop macos client for jellyfin server.
Feel free to join and try it out https://testflight.apple.com/join/LVj8KwAq
Feel free to join and try it out https://testflight.apple.com/join/LVj8KwAq
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[ 1.9 ms ] story [ 154 ms ] threadyou can see how well that has worked out for them since a few weeks ago they made a post crying about how their developer mindshare has been dwindling as of late.
(you will also notice that almost all of the mods who shut it down still have active reddit accounts, so clearly they don't care that much about boycotting reddit)
I pretty much ruled Jellyfin out for what appeared to be lack of enthusiasm.
Ruled out Plex for privacy issues.
Looks like it’s going to be Emby I guess.
Jellyfin’s the first time I’ve seen people who aren’t me even seriously try to use a self-hosted media thing I’ve set up. And mostly succeed! Usually with Kodi they’d give up within a minute.
I think it’s interesting just how much the next gen servers seem to have ate its lunch.
It was easier to find forums for Emby than Jellyfin.
IDK, it was just an impression I got.
Which has a direct link to https://forum.jellyfin.org/
Jellyfin's documentation is good.
It lacks a tad bit of polish compared to Plex, but it can be run entirely offline (meaning without a centralized account like Plex). Plex player on Android TV was awful for even native streaming of 4k, where Jellyfin performs.
It's a strong option for the price.
1. plex 2. emby 3. jellyfin
Plex is notable for being able to run the media server software and tv apps without having to pay anything. Emby needs a license payment, and while jellyfin is free it just isn’t as good as emby or plex right now.
Re: plex privacy, I don’t use a real email for plex id and I’m not sure if you even need it. Plex inc. can see what I’m looking up anyways because they provide the service of providing metadata for media (obviously someone gets the stats)
They do say they don’t actually monitor your usage of plex media server but it’s probably bullshit. I just don’t care with a throwaway plex id – they don’t have my name, address, payment info, nothing
you say crying, I say trying to get that developer mindshare without contributing to a platform they disagree with.
just because it doesn’t register on your moral or ethical compass doesn’t make it the wrong decision. it’s probably harder on the project but not everything is about picking the easy choice.
Gets mentioned more than Plex which had almost completely negative coverage lately and more than Emby: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...
> you can see how well that has worked out for them
I can't see a significant difference in actual commits since closing the subreddit https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin/graphs/commit-activity
> a few weeks ago they made a post crying about how their developer mindshare has been dwindling as of late
What they actually said: "so the number has been pretty flat for the last 3 years all together". (https://jellyfin.org/posts/a-call-for-developers/)
I'm not sure the way you describe it matches reality.
Their forum is also fairly active, so it might just be you ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I didn't realize Reddit was the internet. I'm convinced you're trolling at this point.
Facebook dwarfs reddit and twitter combined - Does that make Facebook the #1 place to host an open source community?
Prospective users: Virtually no chance of encountering the jellyfin subreddit without subscribing or subscribe without already using MIGHT encounter mention of jellyfin on other tech focused subreddit.
Random satisfied users: Unlikely to interact on average with anything.
Users with problems motivated enough to seek support. Unlikely to be put off by the fact that the forum isn't reddit. If you have already installed and set up the software you already have enough investment that taking 30 seconds to create an account on reddit OR a forum.
Potential developers: more interested it where the source is hosted than reddit.
Most of your users are on Facebook and twitter but both are toxic and uniquely unsuitable for fostering a tech community. Reddit with an anemic 1/40th the market of Facebook provides at best a moderately adequate forum alternative but has little to recommend it especially when recently they
- Killed the API and with it every good mobile experience available at a time frame when better than half of users are apt to interact via mobile
- Are pushing a shitty desktop experience that you can only temporarily opt out of
- Hired an employee who kept her dad on in her political campaign after he was arrested for raping and torturing a child in the same house that they both lived in as adults. We are asked to believe that she was unaware of her dad bringing home kids to rape while she was an adult living in the house.
- Upended communities by awarding moderator-ship to random bob users of the channel when channels wouldn't implement the policies they desired
- Have misused internal access to data to silently edit a users post out of spite
- Have regularly used their position to silence dissent or discussion they didn't like
I mean it IS their sandbox and they can run it as they like but why would anyone depend on Reddit for their community at this point in time?
> since a few weeks ago they made a post crying about how their developer mindshare has been dwindling as of late.
Not the first time you've seen them since then, then.
It wasn't really a "as of late" issue. They have had an issue with too few developers since at least last year. I've seen a similar thread on the subreddit you mentioned before as well.
the only reason i know about that blog post is because they stickied it on their locked subreddit. i didn't stumble upon it out in the greater internet.
Its not a good idea to go off of what one person has seen to make a judgement on what "exists" on the internet.
Its the same issue people have had with reposts on Reddit. Even after 10+ reposts on Reddit, somebody will not have seen it. People arent terminally online, generally.
Besides, what's really to follow? I have it installed and it runs great. What else do I need to know besides looking at the roadmap occasionally?
It is still possible to use a Mac without an Apple ID, unlike an iPhone. Please don’t bring identity requirements into desktop computing too.
> This is unofficial client for jellyfin app. For now macos only. Very early build. Expect any kind of crashes, issues and generally its good if it even runs.
Source: https://github.com/avdept/JellyBox
Firefox is the only browser that won't play HEVC. Now AV1 is here, I guess we'll all move everything to that.
Lower memory usage than a chromium instance.
Visual consistency.
And, subjectively, the knowledge that the app developer has put more than the minimum effort into the product. I'm not saying that great Electron apps don't exist -- in fact, my current favorite Jellyfin player is one -- but on average, even the best Electron app is worse than a middle-of-the-road native app.
* either don't require the `http://` or `https://` prefix for the server URL, or add a note informing users that they need to add it themselves. Technical users can usually figure it out, but others will get angry or lost.
* your icon is slightly larger than literally every other icon in my Dock, and it's mildly jarring
* I have an extensive music library that loads quickly and properly in https://github.com/jeffvli/feishin, my current Jellyfin music player of choice, but nothing loads on the home screen and I see no error at all
I'll definitely keep an eye out for updates, I'd love a good Jellyfin native client for macOS. Consider open sourcing it (or pieces of it), I'd be more than happy to contribute! Good luck!
No, detect what was typed and make it work. If it's just an ip address, try https, try http, if they put in http, try https, then try http, if they mistyped https or the like, replace it with https, then try http.
These things are not hard, and are much friendlier to the user.