"Analysts at Loup Ventures previously predicted that the Model 2 would be announced in 2024, with production beginning in mid-2025. Since Musk’s Berlin announcement happened in 2023, the Model 2 might come earlier than anticipated."
No it's a Musk announcement. It will come later than expected and at a higher cost.
> Its conventional design will allow Tesla to manufacture the car at a speed that’s “unheard of” in the auto industry.
I get that this is puff piece by a fan publication, but is there any possible coherent reading of this sentence? I assume this is referring to the idea that the Cybertruck's original conception as an "exoskeleton" design was intended to make manufacturing easier, but has completely failed (the current Cybertruck design is conventional body on frame), not just failing to accelerate manufacturing but obviously delaying it for years... but why would returning to a conventional design give Tesla any edge over the more experienced players in the industry? While Tesla has been able to get production to a small fraction of the real players remarkably quickly in exchange for things like non-uniform panel gaps and marginal build quality, this is at best a partial mitigation, not an edge.
The only thing I can imagine they could try to argue that way is if installing electric motors, batteries, and wiring is faster than installing the engine/transmission. Plus manufacturing an engine is much more tolerance bound because there are so many parts. So maybe it's a collective hope that the speed savings of EVs will magically make Tesla faster at making cars even though they've basically never been able to keep up with demand (chip shortage notwithstanding, that screwed everyone lol)
Wait, /is/ there anything unconventional? I thought the obvious learnings from Cybertruck was that, at least at this point with the leadership completely distracted, trying to do something new and unconventional is beyond Tesla's demonstrated ability to execute. Meanwhile their successful products -- the Model 3 in particular -- and their known future product, the Cybertruck, are totally conventional in manufacturing, besides the use of larger-than-typical castings for some parts.
Is there some suggestion that the Model 2 is going in a different direction than the "do it the same way that everyone else has figured out works" that Tesla has been moving towards?
It is really $25k, or are we talking Tesla Math? (ie, cost after savings, which they currently show as around $10k less than the asking price for the Model 3 on their website)
Model 3 was touted as a $35k car for a long time before production, and it's $39k in the US right now. With some wiggle room of monetary inflation and +$k vs. +%k, I think you're right, we'll be looking at something like $29k msrp.
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As Ron Burgundy would say, "I don't believe you."
A new Toyota Corolla Hybrid starts at $23k.
https://clark.com/cars/average-new-car-price/
I get that this is puff piece by a fan publication, but is there any possible coherent reading of this sentence? I assume this is referring to the idea that the Cybertruck's original conception as an "exoskeleton" design was intended to make manufacturing easier, but has completely failed (the current Cybertruck design is conventional body on frame), not just failing to accelerate manufacturing but obviously delaying it for years... but why would returning to a conventional design give Tesla any edge over the more experienced players in the industry? While Tesla has been able to get production to a small fraction of the real players remarkably quickly in exchange for things like non-uniform panel gaps and marginal build quality, this is at best a partial mitigation, not an edge.
s/conventional/unconventional/
Is there some suggestion that the Model 2 is going in a different direction than the "do it the same way that everyone else has figured out works" that Tesla has been moving towards?