"Stand with X to protect free speech...for speech to be truly free, we must also have the freedom to see or hear things that some people may consider objectionable"
Why is this proponent of free speech having a thermonuclear meltdown because some group published a report? Could anyone explain the logic or thought process?
Musk is failing into the fallacy that free speech means freedom from judgement. He is so self obsessed that he doesn’t see that others are simply exercising their freedom of speech by way of disassociation from him and his businesses.
It’s actually a bit shocking that he doesn’t appear to get this as it seems incredibly basic. You act like an asshole at my house party I am going to kick you out of my house. You still have the freedom to be an asshole but you will have to do that someplace else.
A lot of people who beat the “freedom of speech” drum hardest don’t care about freedom of speech at all; they care that their speech is _protected from criticism_.
Not sure how successful a lawsuit will be against people that were just directly quoting him. I didn't even learn about his suspect tweets from Media Matters, etc but from normal users screenshotting what he's said. I had to mute Elon months ago, he's really gone off the rails.
Which is sad because he does have some good companies, he just seems unable to run them competently. I think his companies are past "move fast and break things" and need to be run by stable adults that don't shoot their mouth off.
The media matters thing wasn’t even about Naughty Old Mr Car’s tweets, it was about Twitter displaying ads for major brands around Nazi (like, literally pro-Hitler) tweets.
Either one has exceeded the bounds of free speech or you haven't. If you have there are logical, legal, financial, and other repercussions.
If you haven't free speech consistently means other players in the X arena also have freedom to chose whether to spend ad dollars or not. And that's not something musk can control.
Underlying all this are two subtle and nefarious dynamics:
- musk is entitled and others are obligated to his assessment and contextuation of this problem. In fact no and no.
- the implication that there are liars meaning a role for the "brave and courageous" to speak the "truth". Yah, I don't see any bold leadership in fact from musk there either.
Free speech is semi one way: you can exclaim but there is no requirement to obligate the other side. That's not how it works.
Elon has a very different definition of free speech than you are familiar with. Earlier this week he said the word "decolonization" would be a bannable offense as an incitement to genocide. But like with "cis" earlier he doesn't seem to have acted on it.
He's so self-focused that he has no concept of, nor concern for others. They are just an extension of his ego.
He claims to be building an "everything app" like WeChat, but he enrages half the available market, including left-leaning Tesla buyers, with his extreme views.
It's as if "They'll all come around to my way of thinking because only my way of thinking is valid."
A true Bond villain. I favor Zorin slightly over Drax, just for the craziness factor.
Psychology professionals are invited to comment. I learned some street psychology just to deal with crazies and cults.
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[ 7.2 ms ] story [ 37.5 ms ] threadWhy is this proponent of free speech having a thermonuclear meltdown because some group published a report? Could anyone explain the logic or thought process?
It’s actually a bit shocking that he doesn’t appear to get this as it seems incredibly basic. You act like an asshole at my house party I am going to kick you out of my house. You still have the freedom to be an asshole but you will have to do that someplace else.
Which is sad because he does have some good companies, he just seems unable to run them competently. I think his companies are past "move fast and break things" and need to be run by stable adults that don't shoot their mouth off.
If you haven't free speech consistently means other players in the X arena also have freedom to chose whether to spend ad dollars or not. And that's not something musk can control.
Underlying all this are two subtle and nefarious dynamics:
- musk is entitled and others are obligated to his assessment and contextuation of this problem. In fact no and no.
- the implication that there are liars meaning a role for the "brave and courageous" to speak the "truth". Yah, I don't see any bold leadership in fact from musk there either.
Free speech is semi one way: you can exclaim but there is no requirement to obligate the other side. That's not how it works.
He claims to be building an "everything app" like WeChat, but he enrages half the available market, including left-leaning Tesla buyers, with his extreme views.
It's as if "They'll all come around to my way of thinking because only my way of thinking is valid."
A true Bond villain. I favor Zorin slightly over Drax, just for the craziness factor.
Psychology professionals are invited to comment. I learned some street psychology just to deal with crazies and cults.