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That’s a terrible title
If you drop a note to the mods at hn@ycombinator.com with your suggestion and reasoning, they may well accept it.
The original title (for me anyway) is: "SpaceX Rocket Test Reaches Milestone—And Ends With Explosion".
On one hand I want SpaceX to succeed. But on the other hand, I can't stand Elon benefiting in any way. I won't commenr again about the rampant Elon supported racism at tesla or the him firing spacex employees begging him to stop letting his bullshit personal politics in the way of their mission. But he is literally supporting anti-semitism now in the open, to the point the anti-defamation league is pleading with companies to stop adverising on X. I don't want any human progress or achievement to come at such a high price. Not when the government is paying Elon for launches.

I wish spacex all the success, hope Elon divests it to make up for his loss on twitter. I hope Elon all the failure in the world, or better yet I hope he finds redemption and sees the error of his ways, that he stops promoting hatred and division and peacefully enjoys his enormous wealth. Being a horrible person, despite the myth, is not a pre-requisite to achieving great things nor is it excused by such achievements.

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Praising a post defending Hitler is hardly about calling out genocide, is it not?
Sorry, my bad, I have not followed his tweets recently.
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The ADL has been promoting reverse discrimination against whites for years. It's what Elon was referencing when he agreed with the tweet post. And how many times does Elon need to say that he abhors antisemitism, and all forms of racism?
“He disagrees with the leaders of my tribe, hence he’s a member of the enemy tribe. That makes him bad!”
No, he is an ass and cruel, that makes him bad. Praising hitler and supporting antisemitism has nothing to do with any "tribe" leader.
When did he praise Hitler and support antisemitism?
Source please
I think this one has plenty sources but google had plenty of results:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/nov/16/elon-musk...

I don't even keep up with that jerk but apparently he thinks as a the richest man on the planet he isn't being allowed to be proud of his race, the jews are after him because he is white and anyone who disagrees is engaging in anti-white racism.

I hope sibling commenters asking the same thing read this. HN quotas and all.

There is literally zero evidence in that article that Musk is an anti-semite, quotes Hitler, or any such nonsense.

This all seems to be "ADL is on our side, Musk doesn't like the ADL, therefore he is one of the enemy."

From what I gather, Musk's opinion is in no way outlandish or unique.

For example, here in Australia there was a referendum recently to alter the constitution to recognise aboriginals and give them a "voice" in parliament. This was basically a salve for the collective white guilt, or something. It got soundly rejected by the majority of the country.

Musk's opinions appear to be in-line with the majority of Australians. Are we all Hitler-quoting anti-semite racists?

Honestly, I couldn't care less about ADL, but Elon at the very least promotes culture and attitude where racism festers. He has lost like 4-5 racism lawsuits because of rampant racism at Tesla and he clearly as you can read in that article echoes white supremacist propaganda like anti-white racism (which is real and should be dealt with except white supremacists are using this to promote their views which he supports), and jewsih conspiracy theories.

> From what I gather, Musk's opinion is in no way outlandish or unique

That is sort of the problem, white supremacists and far right propagandists are his company. It is not unique, it is very popular with anti-semites.

> This was basically a salve for the collective white guilt, or something. It got soundly rejected by the majority of the country.

But he is in america and he is echoing shit kanye west says against jews lol. I am by no means advocating for whitr guilt or anything close to that. I agree that some groups of people have been racist to white people, matter of fact whatever "race" group you are in, members of group have been racist against everyone and you as a member of that group have received racist sentiment by every other group. Talking about all that in a civilized way is good and healthy, everyone can be racist. But upvoting ani-semitic posts on a platform he controls is promoting that view. One thing I find remarkable is by all appearances Jewish people are mostly white and of european history the only time I hear them singled out is when a white supremacist with racial purity on their minds wants to make a distinction, or to let others know by code he shares their view.

> Musk's opinions appear to be in-line with the majority of Australians. Are we all Hitler-quoting anti-semite racists?

I don't know enough about australia to have a strong opinion. I do remmber in the early 2000's there was a race riot where white australians were hunting and assaulting anyone that looked middle-eastern but that could have been a minority. If you harbor no ill-will or negative views about an entire group of people you are not a racist in my view, but if you support the view that aboriginals are lazy or jewsish people are conspiring against white people then yeah, stop wearing a klan hood and be out with your racism, grow a pair!

If you want a leader like trump that will get rid if the vermin (hitler quote) the you are exactly what you described.

If you look at someone like Elon or Trump who are in no way trying to have a conversation about how people are being mistreated for being white, orgs like ADL, SPLC, NAACP and extreme liberals have drifted into anti-white racism but rather making that claim to advance their own white supremacist agenda and in them you see someone like you that you can relate with then you are very gullible and naive or a closet racist.

I would hope you or others who genuinely want to converse about anti-white guilt and sentiments (again, very real and I disagree with that), you should do so without siding with racists or allowing white supremacists to hijack the conversation.

ADL has diluted the meaning of anti-semitic to mean anyone who disagrees.
Hard disagree, please give one example of that so myslef and others have the opportunity to agree with you. Anyone saying something negative about "the jews" is an anti-semite, how do you feel about that? Not against the israeli government, or specific individuals or groups that happen to be jewish but in general a negative statement and stereotype against "the jews" is anti-semitism. If you can agree with that, please show me examples of the ADL dilluting that term.
If I do the research, will it change your mind?
About ADL? Certainly! I have no strong feelings for them. About Elon, unlikely unless perhaps you claim he is just childish and joking or something.
Care to give me an example of anti-white rhetoric by ADL? I am all ears. They track hate groups.
"that he stops promoting hatred and division"

Your entire post is literally a rant with the sole purpose of promoting hatred and division.

Against whom? Elon? I can see how you would think I hate him but who is subject of the division here, that implies groups.
Two 'nother explosions to be clear. On the other hand 90% of the launch goals were achieved.
This just in, upon further research: Every orbital rocket launch in history has ended in an explosion or a crash

Oh the humanity! Why isn't some company trying to solve this?