Electric vehicles have nearly 80% more problems and are generally less reliable than cars propelled by conventional internal combustion engines, according to a new report from Consumer Reports.
Bolt not listed even though it is one of the best selling electric cars, and the Bolt seems to have a paywalled reliability score on their site. Not sure what to make of this report. Is it mostly tesla that has poor reliability?
Not mentioned in the article (but present in the original source) is that non-plugin hybrids have 26% fewer problems than ICE cars - I wonder why this is.
Yes, a lot of the stats in that article correlate pretty closely to which Manufacturers are generally reliable (Toyota & Honda) and which are not (Chrysler).
You would need to break out the EVs separately from the rest and see how each model compares to really evaluate the state of EVs.
With so few models, it is easy for a few rotten apples to pull down the whole bunch.
Just link the original article[0], the cbsnews article has like zero depth. But even the consumer reports article lacks a lot of depth - I'm sure they want me to subscribe.
Anyway, I was hoping to see what specifically was the problems other than generic "charging problems". Like which make+model and what kind of "charging problem" was it. Simple like the app failed or really complex like the charger unit needed to be replaced.
Teslas are notorious for cabin problems/cheapness, but their drive train has way less complaints. So I'd like to see how they fair.
The variance between brands and models is far higher than the variance between vehicle types.
Toyota and Honda are the most reliable brands, and they don't sell many electric vehicles. Once you factor that out, you can't draw any conclusions on whether electric cars are more reliable than gasoline cars.
I find their detailed reports really valuable and use them often before big purchases. It’s $40/yr and I definitely save that much by not going with my gut or asking on Reddit.
Recent example: with their analysis, I found that the Kobalt $300 lawnmower will more than meet my needs; I don’t need the $500 DeWalt lawnmower.
"E-cars are above average Defects in the braking function detected. One reason for this is the recuperation with which electric vehicles can recover braking energy. The brake pads are used less frequently, which can impair the braking performance. Another weak point of many electric cars are Axis suspensions. These often suffer from the high weight of the batteries."
CR has a long history of bias against anything electric in their reporting and headlines.
They state they drew these conclusions based on 330K survey responses. Over 13M vehicles are sold in the US alone each year. For 2.5% to be a representative sample requires extremely careful control over many confounding factors.
If their 330K survey responses follow the same distribution as new vehicle sales, only about 23K of them were BEVs. That doesn't seem like a representative sample of the roughly 1M BEVs sold each year.
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[ 3.0 ms ] story [ 40.6 ms ] threadYou would need to break out the EVs separately from the rest and see how each model compares to really evaluate the state of EVs.
With so few models, it is easy for a few rotten apples to pull down the whole bunch.
Anyway, I was hoping to see what specifically was the problems other than generic "charging problems". Like which make+model and what kind of "charging problem" was it. Simple like the app failed or really complex like the charger unit needed to be replaced.
Teslas are notorious for cabin problems/cheapness, but their drive train has way less complaints. So I'd like to see how they fair.
[0] https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/car-reliability-owner-s...
Toyota and Honda are the most reliable brands, and they don't sell many electric vehicles. Once you factor that out, you can't draw any conclusions on whether electric cars are more reliable than gasoline cars.
I find their detailed reports really valuable and use them often before big purchases. It’s $40/yr and I definitely save that much by not going with my gut or asking on Reddit.
Recent example: with their analysis, I found that the Kobalt $300 lawnmower will more than meet my needs; I don’t need the $500 DeWalt lawnmower.
https://www.adac.de/news/tuev-report-2024/
"E-cars are above average Defects in the braking function detected. One reason for this is the recuperation with which electric vehicles can recover braking energy. The brake pads are used less frequently, which can impair the braking performance. Another weak point of many electric cars are Axis suspensions. These often suffer from the high weight of the batteries."
They state they drew these conclusions based on 330K survey responses. Over 13M vehicles are sold in the US alone each year. For 2.5% to be a representative sample requires extremely careful control over many confounding factors.
If their 330K survey responses follow the same distribution as new vehicle sales, only about 23K of them were BEVs. That doesn't seem like a representative sample of the roughly 1M BEVs sold each year.