Didn't watch Homicide until last year, and at first it was really jarring to see Braugher as Pembleton because it's such a different character from Holt. And that's of course praise for Braugher because he did such a great job with two completely different characters.
Great ensemble cast of characters with neuroses, a bit of world building with great recurring characters, witty writing. There’s a lot of heart in the writing and acting too, it’s easy to care for these characters even though they are zany goofballs.
I would claim it is truly the last great network TV sitcom unless there’s something newer I’m missing.
Great, that's perfectly fine; everyone likes or dislikes some things. Nothing wrong with that.
But not posting your opinion is something you're allowed to do... In fact "knowing when to shut the fuck up" is the major factor that distinguishes an asshole from a non-asshole.
I don't think expressing one's opinion in a way that is not derogatory to anybody would be akin to being an asshole. Sure maybe the comment would've been a bit more appropriate at another time but they specifically complemented Braugher's performance.
Saying that something was "cheap crap" except for one performance, is not really constructive to any discussion. It's also definitely derogatory. It's mostly inflammatory. Them complementing Braugher's performance doesn't really change the tone they started out their comment with.
As an example of their comment that isn't Derogatory/inflammatory:
> His performance in Brooklyn 99 was about the only thing I liked in the show; he is very good in the House M.D. episode/s that he's is in.
So obey me and obey my command upon what is good and right and acceptable; this is surely some sort of authoritarian on consensual pressure pushed upon people that might otherwise have a contrary opinion. Good to see you lay it out so sordidly and so sorry in terms of your own prior biases which you yourself must necessarily deny even exist. Isn't that right?
I will never comprehend how Hugh Laurie is british. His american accent in House MD was impeccable, and even his american-guy-trying-to-imitate-british-guy accent left nothing to be desired.
It actually sticks out like sore thumb if you listen to his cadence closely.
Americans tend to join words together so whereas house would say old married couple a "true" American would usually say something like oldmarried-couple. YMMV
Part of an observer’s perception of a cultural artifact comes from the observer’s knowledge and experiences, which can include knowledge about the people who made the artifact. It can change over time as the observer changes. Learning of a performer’s death can be such a change.
I would not think that Brooklyn 99 qualifies as a "cultural artifact".
But I think I get what you mean. I think that what GP (and you) were referring to was the act of watching the show, which would remind the watcher of Andre Braugher's death.
For it to be considered as such I think that it would need to be easily recognised by a relatively large portion of the world compared to other shows. Anecdotal but I have only 1 friend who watched B99, but almost all of my friends would be able to recognise actors/scenes from Breaking Bad even if they haven't watched the show itself. Breaking Bad is referenced a lot in pop culture, much more so than B99 (an example I can think of would be the rehashing of the sentence "This is the moment when [Walter White] became [Heisenberg]").
The same can be said of The Office. People have been exposed to it enough that they can recognize a scene from it based on the production style even if they have never watched the show. I do not think Brooklynn 99 is at that stage yet. Perhaps it will reach it in the future.
This has nothing to do with the merits of B99 though. I personally think it is a great show. It has good characters, fantastic actors, decent writing and an alright overarching plot. But I would not call it a cultural artifact (yet).
Yeah, that's not how culture works, or ever worked. You don't need to be omni-dominant in a "large portion of the world". Most works of culture are seen, read, or heard by a relatively small part of the world, and they all contribute strands to a larger tapestry. Some strands are wider ("most influential") and/or longer ("remembered longer") than others, but every strand is part of culture. If you were to pick up a guitar and started singing at the local pub then that's culture too. No, it's not the reach of the Rolling Stones or whatnot, but that doesn't mean it's not culture.
So by your definition is this comment thread itself a cultural artifact. Your definition of the phrase cultural artifact is lenient enough to allow for that.
After all, this thread was seen by a relatively small part of the world and it contributes to the "larger tapestry" (ie the hacker news post).
They were (I believe). It's the "of course its not going to be the same" part that's OP just being a smart-ass. Only the first part of the sentence was needed.
Besides, even if they did know the show was cancelled, it still impacts how one views the show knowing one of it's major cast members is dead. Same with Matt Perry (Chandler) passing away recently - that knowledge will forever change Friends, despite the last season being in 2004.
Andre Braugher memorably acted out the near-death of his character Pembleton, from a stroke, and afterwards the consequences of a stroke like impaired speech. Really an unforgettable performance.
He was also in Men of a Certain Age, a great show about 3 guy friends approaching the age of 50: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06NbS1aPzI0, with Ray Romano and Scott Bakula.
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I would claim it is truly the last great network TV sitcom unless there’s something newer I’m missing.
Oh yeah and Terry Crews is just amazing.
But not posting your opinion is something you're allowed to do... In fact "knowing when to shut the fuck up" is the major factor that distinguishes an asshole from a non-asshole.
Saying that something was "cheap crap" except for one performance, is not really constructive to any discussion. It's also definitely derogatory. It's mostly inflammatory. Them complementing Braugher's performance doesn't really change the tone they started out their comment with.
As an example of their comment that isn't Derogatory/inflammatory:
> His performance in Brooklyn 99 was about the only thing I liked in the show; he is very good in the House M.D. episode/s that he's is in.
I just finished watching The Night Manager (which also has Hugh Laurie).
And now my the tangential leap:
The main character in The Night Manager was played by Tom Hiddleston (Marvel's Loki), and IMHO his acting was perfect for this role.
Americans tend to join words together so whereas house would say old married couple a "true" American would usually say something like oldmarried-couple. YMMV
Brooklyn Nine-Nine will never be the same without him. He carried the role as Captain Raymond Holt so well.
But I think I get what you mean. I think that what GP (and you) were referring to was the act of watching the show, which would remind the watcher of Andre Braugher's death.
Why wouldn't it be?
The same can be said of The Office. People have been exposed to it enough that they can recognize a scene from it based on the production style even if they have never watched the show. I do not think Brooklynn 99 is at that stage yet. Perhaps it will reach it in the future.
This has nothing to do with the merits of B99 though. I personally think it is a great show. It has good characters, fantastic actors, decent writing and an alright overarching plot. But I would not call it a cultural artifact (yet).
After all, this thread was seen by a relatively small part of the world and it contributes to the "larger tapestry" (ie the hacker news post).
Besides, even if they did know the show was cancelled, it still impacts how one views the show knowing one of it's major cast members is dead. Same with Matt Perry (Chandler) passing away recently - that knowledge will forever change Friends, despite the last season being in 2004.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAgn6BxqPN0
Sadly there's only 2 seasons of it.
I really enjoyed Men of a Certain Age. Highly recommend it. Rest in peace Andre Braugher.