For anyone that has worked at "large global companies" they will know that Infosys and TechM are some of the worst things about working at said companies.
The best Indian engineers aren't working at these body shops, instead it's the bottom of the barrel and all of them are looking to either get promoted quickly or get out just as fast. As a result it's a revolving door of "resources" (urgh corp speak) that have to constantly be brought up to speed.
This is largely why most large enterprises operate on a bit of a seesaw w.r.t outsourcing.
They have in-house people do the thing, it's expensive and some new exec that just got hired or promoted tries to score a quick win outsourcing stuff.
So that continues for 2 years until exec gets their bonuses and leaves but now everything is a huge mess, business functions are paralyzed by outsourcing etc.
Some new exec that was brought in to take the fall gets thrown out despite none of this being their fault.
New expensive exec is hired to fix everything, they hire a new in-house team, usually at inflated rates because you need to offer a premium to clean up Infosys/TechM messes. Everything starts looking good again after 18-24 months but the exec that fought for and protected the in-house team is now surplus to requirements and on the way out.
> The best Indian engineers aren't working at these body shops, instead it's the bottom of the barrel and all of them are looking to either get promoted quickly or get out just as fast. As a result it's a revolving door of "resources" (urgh corp speak) that have to constantly be brought up to speed.
You could say as much for any IT body shop worldwide. "Indian" can be treated as a variable in your sentence.
You could, but you'd be wrong. I've worked with outsourced devs from India, Ukraine, Russia and the 'stans and hands down the worst experiences have been with ones from India. The individual devs, when I could drill down, were bright and capable and with enough experience under their belts would be the equal of devs anywhere; the companies, however, very much had a "turn 'em and burn 'em" approach that meant any domain knowledge went out the door. I'm convinced it's a cultural/management thing. They seemed to be trained and actively managed to wait for explicit instructions for what to do instead of taking initiative and communicating it. (DISCLAIMER: This is just my own experience. Others' mileage may vary.)
> For anyone that has worked at "large global companies" they will know that Infosys and TechM are some of the worst things about working at said companies.
> The best Indian engineers aren't working at these body shops, instead it's the bottom of the barrel and all of them are looking to either get promoted quickly or get out just as fast.
The best engineers of those respective countries are not working at "large global companies" either. Large companies that hire engineers - outsourced or otherwise - into cost centers fail to hire top engineers.
>Would be happier if the contracts of these WITCH companies are terminated citing how poorly they treat their employees
don't think they will,that's how capitalism works
Narayan Murthy is to Infosys as Bill Gates is to Microsoft (retired from their respective companies).
And his words does not apply to IT Industry only, there are other professions which contributes to GDP of a country and where productivity matters.
He quotes Germany and Japan where post war 'first generation' forsake their lives for the future generations, similarly, a modern example is that of South Korea - where the generation that built the nation in 60s had to work hard beyond the normal hours.
This is what perhaps Mr. Murthy is trying to allude, and he also mentions how the government has to improve too (bureaucracy, elimination of corruption etc.).
This is not about IT, or Infosys or "WITCH" companies, it is about building a nation.
The article (a few paragraphs) is literally of zero value with no data/information at all which you have submitted because of the click-baity title. There can be no other inference.
A look at your history confirms that you have submitted/commented on similar articles in the past in the same negative vein adding nothing of value. Inference? You are a troll.
The article links to the actual PDF (given below) but you are right, there is nothing in this article as to why this contract ended. It does seem like those who have issues with Indian IT companies have been quick to jump on this story though.
Damn, something must have gone seriously, seriously wrong for Infosys to lose a huge deal they made news about. That doesn't happen, even for a bodyshop like them.
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[ 2.9 ms ] story [ 59.9 ms ] threadThe best Indian engineers aren't working at these body shops, instead it's the bottom of the barrel and all of them are looking to either get promoted quickly or get out just as fast. As a result it's a revolving door of "resources" (urgh corp speak) that have to constantly be brought up to speed.
This is largely why most large enterprises operate on a bit of a seesaw w.r.t outsourcing.
They have in-house people do the thing, it's expensive and some new exec that just got hired or promoted tries to score a quick win outsourcing stuff.
So that continues for 2 years until exec gets their bonuses and leaves but now everything is a huge mess, business functions are paralyzed by outsourcing etc. Some new exec that was brought in to take the fall gets thrown out despite none of this being their fault.
New expensive exec is hired to fix everything, they hire a new in-house team, usually at inflated rates because you need to offer a premium to clean up Infosys/TechM messes. Everything starts looking good again after 18-24 months but the exec that fought for and protected the in-house team is now surplus to requirements and on the way out.
Cycle then repeats ad infinitum.
You could say as much for any IT body shop worldwide. "Indian" can be treated as a variable in your sentence.
They're probably relating their lived experiences and personal knowledge.
> The best Indian engineers aren't working at these body shops, instead it's the bottom of the barrel and all of them are looking to either get promoted quickly or get out just as fast.
The best engineers of those respective countries are not working at "large global companies" either. Large companies that hire engineers - outsourced or otherwise - into cost centers fail to hire top engineers.
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/narayana-murthy-suggests-70-...
Would be happier if the contracts of these WITCH companies are terminated citing how poorly they treat their employees
And his words does not apply to IT Industry only, there are other professions which contributes to GDP of a country and where productivity matters.
He quotes Germany and Japan where post war 'first generation' forsake their lives for the future generations, similarly, a modern example is that of South Korea - where the generation that built the nation in 60s had to work hard beyond the normal hours.
This is what perhaps Mr. Murthy is trying to allude, and he also mentions how the government has to improve too (bureaucracy, elimination of corruption etc.).
This is not about IT, or Infosys or "WITCH" companies, it is about building a nation.
> This is not about IT, or Infosys or "WITCH" companies, it is about building a nation.
So everybody has to "improve", except Mr. Murthy.
When you have a hammer in your hand, everything looks like a nail. /s
The article (a few paragraphs) is literally of zero value with no data/information at all which you have submitted because of the click-baity title. There can be no other inference.
A look at your history confirms that you have submitted/commented on similar articles in the past in the same negative vein adding nothing of value. Inference? You are a troll.
https://www.bseindia.com/xml-data/corpfiling/AttachHis/bbf48...
It could have been a million things:
- Key member of Exec team sponsoring the deal left (unlikely)
- Funding didn't work out
- Priorities at customer change
- They were mis-sold (unlikely)
- The announcement of the deal closing was presumptive and didn't actually happen (likely)
If you search for the same topic from other sources, there are some more data/indications but nothing clear at all.
Here is one with some data - https://analyticsindiamag.com/what-happened-to-the-1-5-billi...