I increasingly find the no two alike thing exasperating. Almost nothing in nature above the subatomic/atomic/molecule level is "alike" in crystals or anything else. Making BIPM spheres of counted atoms does not truly make them identical. Cubic crystals of salt will have differences.
At the level of detail most people can discern, I suspect many morphological forms of ice crystal are very alike, and we have to resort to the small imperfections to get to not alike.
Nothing is exactly the same. That's what discrete countable things are: distinct.
(Of course it's semantics. And poetic license. Most snowflakes are trivially unlike, and those which are nearly alike have discernible difference if you go looking for them. As do cells, flowers, grains of sand.. )
Thanks! Your comment compelled me to look up olivine and then feldspar to check their formulas. Becoming much more aware of the makeup of minerals is on my list of things to do.
There's a whole class of factoids where it seems some people are unable to resist bringing it up even when the connection to the current discussion is quite tenuous, and a reactionary set of people who are unable to resist a stock reply to the mention (which varies depending on the topic, but generally it's an "actually" calling out some exception to the first statement). In reality, everyone has read both the factoid and the stock reply a million times.
It would be interesting to document and track these. They are almost like little autonomous programs that run on people's consciousness, which I guess is a just a meme per the original definition.
Good catch, that's a remarkably poor description. A table can easily be anywhere from like two to four feet tall, so this device is anywhere from one to three feet tall, neither of which sounds nearly as impressive as five feet.
I don't understand how they are even close to symmetric. The 'seed' seems unlikely to be symmetric. There is no way for one 'arm' to communicate directly with another. And the conditions (temperature etc) is unlikely to be completely uniform around that seed.
> The ice crystals that make up snowflakes are symmetrical (or patterned) because they reflect the internal order of the crystal’s water molecules as they arrange themselves in predetermined spaces (known as “crystallization”) to form a six-sided snowflake.
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[ 10.1 ms ] story [ 73.3 ms ] threadAt the level of detail most people can discern, I suspect many morphological forms of ice crystal are very alike, and we have to resort to the small imperfections to get to not alike.
Nothing is exactly the same. That's what discrete countable things are: distinct.
(Of course it's semantics. And poetic license. Most snowflakes are trivially unlike, and those which are nearly alike have discernible difference if you go looking for them. As do cells, flowers, grains of sand.. )
Reminds me of a little bit of that one xkcd.
https://xkcd.com/2501/
It would be interesting to document and track these. They are almost like little autonomous programs that run on people's consciousness, which I guess is a just a meme per the original definition.
Related from then:
Photos of Snowflakes Like You've Never Seen Them Before
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/10/science/snowflakes-photos...
Highest resolution photos ever taken of snowflakes - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25939169 - Jan 2021 (26 comments)
Ultra High Resolution Photos of Snowflakes - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25414579 - Dec 2020 (88 comments)
And is about the length of three football fields when dismantled and spaced equally across them?
How big can a a snowflake get?
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38797629
Earliest Snowflake Photos From 1885
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38816521
[1] https://www.wired.com/2010/12/snowflakes-by-microscope/
https://www.noaa.gov/stories/how-do-snowflakes-form-science-...
Thanks. But I'm still not convinced. If it is just that the microclimate around the seed is the same, why aren't adjacent crystals identical?