Bash.org was a cornerstone of the old internet. It was a collection of silly quotes from IRC channels everywhere, many of which dated back to the 90s. And now it is no more.
Thanks to the folk who put it together and ran it nearly 20 years. I wonder how much the whole thing cost?
Kind of thing that gets put together as a "hey this is cool" project, it runs and people use it, so we'll just leave it up... months later its more popular, the original authors of the system moved on, but no one can just pull the plug now. this is a public resource, so we'll just keep feeding it.
Years later, someone may go through and fix the design problems; or not. It might be no one figured out how to resolve the dependency on PHP2 or Python1 the original code may have had.
Would make for a nice webservice, like those Pokemon/StarWars/etc apis.
Ironically, those quotes will likely survive a lot of more modern content. Even viral stuff, these days, will disappear incredibly quickly - bat an eyelid and the imgur link is broken, the twitter post is paywalled, the reddit thread is taken down... And any private service like Discord or Slack will happily burn everything after a few months.
"The internet does not forget" is such a massive lie.
"The numbers missing from the sequence correspond to the quotes that are either
still pending review or have been rejected. However, my dataset is by no means
considered to be proven complete."
It was down for a couple of months already. However, the IP and server seems to be there. Maybe the person who keeps that up will restart the daemons when they remember they operate one of the nostalgia cornerstones of better part of the internet.
Maybe the server's password is hunter2. Let's see whether can I access it.
But this also means that they know your plaintext password, meaning that they're saving passwords in plaintext. Given that this is mostly a technical community, it's much more the risk of keeping a database of plaintext passwords than the benefit of being able to obfuscate passwords in comments.
EDIT: thanks to another commenter, I understood that what's happening in the above comments is just a meme and HN isn't storing plaintext passwords. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
In case you're unclear why your being down voted, comment chain is a riff on one of the more famous bash.org quotes: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/hunter2.
HN does not actually know your password or hide it in comments.
What actually happens is more complex: when you type a *******, HN tries to log in once for every string in your *******, and then when it succeeds it goes back and replaces that string with a randomized length of asterisks.
(sticking with the obliviousness for a moment,) Would they need to store the plaintext password? Hashing every word typed isn't efficient but it's possible to achieve without knowing the plaintext.
Considering how laggy the comment box is on reddit, it makes me wonder if they're not already doing something similar, but client-side in js. I guess it would expose the salt though.
The only way it can be realistically implemented involves the storage of clear-text user password to enable string replacement during comment submission. Either that or converting user comment to a prefix/suffix table (or something similar) and then hash each item to search for a match. Both option is ridiculously unnecessary.
Anyway, my HN password is ****. I bet it don't work.
Fortunately with modern serverless architecture, it's possible to make this performant! Just split up each comment into words and dispatch each word to a queue where AWS Lambda workers can check the words against the user's password hash. It might cost $20 to process each comment, but at least it'll autoscale to handle any comment volume you throw at it!
Gonna go out on a limb and agree with the archive.is owner -- the reason he blocks it is bc cloudflare intentionally doesn't support edns client subnet. They cite privacy reasons, but it comes at the at the cost of performance -- most cdns use DNS based routing, so using cloudflare DNS means you connect to random server for a lot of websites. CloudFlare on the other hand uses anycast routing for their CDN, so they don't suffer at all.
I hate Google but my pihole is configured to use their DNS resolvers. Lesser of two evils.
It shouldn't be that bad, CloudFlare's anycast should direct you to a nearby resolver, and doing your GeoDNS on that resolver IP instead of ECS is probably not that much worse than doing it on the actual client IP. Both approaches aren't great at picking an ideal CDN node, GeoIP is notoriously unreliable, and it tells you nothing about network topology.
Breaking DNS entirely is much worse behaviour, especially because GeoDNS itself is arguably not in the spirit of DNS which is distributing a consistent database, not making it up on the fly based on the client's info. The archive.is admin is being ridiculous, the least they could do is block anyone not using a resolver supporting ECS to be consistent, but no they have something personal against Cloudflare.
Host resolves, packets are dropped (ICMP timeouts, but nothing is "unreachable"). My sysadmin gut says that the server is there, behind a firewall, and the webserver is down/stopped, or the firewall is killing everything.
The IP is not shared. It reverse-resolves, too.
So, it's not dismantled and thrown to side.
Looks like the hosting provider, Idologic, got bought by Stablepoint. Maybe they have somehow blocked the site during the merger?
Ah, I probably missed it because we had the following dialogue at the office.
<senior-sysadm> Hey bayindirh, is the log server up?
<bayindirh> *SSHs to server* Yes, it's up and running nicely.
<senior-sysadm> Where's that thing in the system room?
<bayindirh> *Scratches head* Umm, I don't know?
<senior-sysadm> Go find it, we'll upgrade it to newer HW.
<bayindirh> Uh, OK. *leaves desk to dig the system room*.
P.S.: I'm the one who installed that server physically and configured it in the first place. :D
Funny, we used to do the same with random pcs in our lab that people would setup and forget about. We used the Duke Nuken 3D theme song from when the game first loaded.
There was a lab I hung out in back in college. The nature of the room and the devices that we had in there, there was 10bT, 10b2, and 10b5. Twisted pair, coax, and thick.
The someone had what was termed "the connector of evil". Apparently coax and thick had the same signal... just thick was more rigid about where you connected into it. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10BASE5 and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vampire_tap ). The connector of evil looked like a 10b5 terminator on one side and 10b2 on the other... and passed the signal between them.
When adding another computer onto the 10b2 segment, we would invariably disrupt the wave in the wire and some devices would drop off.
The trick was to have each machine ping -f one of the systems on 10bT and redirect its output to /dev/audio. If the machine was making noise, it was good. And so then we'd fiddle with different lengths of coax between the T connectors until everything was buzzing away.
Happened to me recently when moving. Couldn't find one of my zigbee temperature sensors, but it was still reporting information diligently, so it had to be somewhere in the house. Took about 6 months before I found it.
Anticlimactic, partly unpacked moving box. I was mostly surprised it was able to re-join the mesh while being in a completely different spot, something that a lot zigbee chips struggle with.
I’m reminded of the time I dropped a Juul behind/beside a makeshift workshop table and it magnetically attached itself a foot or so below to the freestanding metal shelving unit directly next to it.
I don’t advise using Juul products for this and other reasons.
I'd love to find the contact details for this old server I used to use. It's been online continuously since 1996 and I know the first name of the guy that has it, but I don't remember his last name. Shit, the server hardware might even be mine, I don't even remember. I can't even remember if it is Linux or *BSD at this point.
Reminds me of Gigablast disappearing, a search engine that was in the spotlight in the early 00's, a sole developer competing amongst AlltheWeb and Google.
When their site disappeared there was barely a mention.
I guess since the mass of geocities was uprooted it's become the norm, the churn of the web and generally accepted. archive.org is great, but it does seem strange how transient information has become on the web. HN and archive.org have good memories.
Backed up on centralized gitlab and centralized archive.org, huh?
My point is that the comment was praising independent services when it doesn't make sense: bash.org, the independent service, shutting down and people want to store backups in a more trustworthy centralized service, much like the two backups you linked.
Wikipedia isn't an appropriate place for Bash quotes because Wikipedia is an encyclopedia about broad concepts. Also, Wikipedia as a policy is not a primary source.
Wikiquotes could be appropriate. Submitting a dump of the entire database to Archive.org could be appropriate. (For example, Archive.org hosts user-submitted dumps of things like product manuals, old TV shows, old computer games.)
Considering the quotes have an unknown, and almost certainly not public domain or CC BY-SA license[1], they wouldn't be appropriate for any Wikimedia project.
[1] And even if submitting required licensing the contribution under some Wikimedia-friendly license, considering each person included in a quote would also have to agree to such a license... and I have a feeling bloodninja wasn't following up their conversations with "would you mind sending me a signed release of the above six (6) messages under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike license version 3.0?"
Always surprised when some of these sites shut down. The operating cost seems low and putting on a few ads (ethical, non-intrusive, etc.) can net you passive $100+/mo.
A historical archive of something should allow for robust, non-interactive ways to persist. Maybe there should be standards for this. In the mean time we can find gratitude to archive.org and similar services
Even if it's a static HTML, you need to patch your webserver, OS, and migrate the whole stack to newer versions.
This is why I'm scaling down my home infrastructure to SBCs and run everything on Debian with stock package repositories. It reduces tons of burden to something very manageable.
A webserver like Apache and NGINX are way more complex than they look. It's sometimes possible to exploit bugs with benign/simple requests, even if you don't run advanced stacks on them. See [0] for example.
If you're not running strict firewall rules to limit your SSH access and if you expose other services outside, they also need constant patching against newer attacks.
Lastly, security standards evolve. Your SSH and SSL layers need to be kept up to date to patch holes and add newer algorithms while deprecating others, further reducing the attack surface [1].
Because no software is perfect, which means every lock has weaknesses that sooner or later get found out. Chances are that, say, a Linux 2.x server that was considered "very secure" in 2005 would now be pwned in a few hours.
"Even if it's just static text, you need to patch your OS, update your text editor and migrate the whole document to newer versions."
Nah. That's bull. A static site can be put on a web server and the site never needs to be updated again. I have web sites people started hosting on my servers in the '90s that are still there, still serving, and haven't been touched in twenty years.
Sure, I update the servers and software, but the actual amount of work needed for the site is, quite literally, zero.
I have several dozen that go back at least two decades, but I don't think I should post them without asking the owners. OTOH, here's a rather public one:
For simple servers, unattended upgrades and an automatic mail whenever server needs a restart (like kernel updates) is enough. I'd put that $100 to a piggy bank every month instead.
I was making the point that the web server can just keep getting updated by virtue of being part of an active server. Separately, the site doesn't need any updating / maintenance.
The same person or people who run the servers aren't necessarily the same person or people who make the web sites.
People can just as easily have static sites on SDF.org. There'd be no reason for anyone to fret about whether the servers are up to date.
Also, nobody ever needs to "migrate the whole stack to newer versions". That's just not a thing with a static site.
Of course, I'm generally on the side which maintains the servers. Some of these servers happen to be my own servers which stores my own stuff.
BTW, I'm on SDF. I love these guys. They sometimes nuke my TTRSS user, but that's OK. :D
The whole stack, at least in my parlance, means anything and everything between your (static) webpage and hardware. From kernel to the server which serves your page.
IOW, I use stack as in "LAMP" stack. In this case it's only LA, but it's a stack nonetheless.
Why complicate everything when I can serve it with webfs (a tiny webserver), from a tiny SBC from a cabinet in my room, or from a VM and concentrate all my services to it while paying not too much money and have all the flexibility in the world?
I don't like to use oversized tools for small jobs. Also, it's not fun.
I can say that the server in question is updated at least until 2010. However, some of the software running on it has some (read: quite a few) weaknesses as far as I can see.
...and it has ports open.
Maybe you should give it a backrub, IDK. It's possible to iteratively update that thing AFAICS.
I remember back when it got popular it seemed to stop accepting submissions after a short time.
And the hunter2 stuff got stuck on the top list forever, probably because the mechanism is self-reinforcing by making it easiest to vote for the stuff already on the top.
bash.org has given me endless laughs. It always cheered me up.
Its too bad the the top 100/200 hadn't changed in years. I guess that's because IRC has been mostly dead for a while now (no more new submission) and that the voting algorithm favored a self-feeding feedback loop. Nonetheless, it was fun to come back once every few years and re-read the top quotes.
Hopefully someone revives the site. Hopefully it's just that the server needs some love or something. Do we have any idea who is behind it?
> Its too bad the the top 100/200 hadn't changed in years.
I checked it every couple years or so when I remembered some part of some top quote and wanted to get the full thing. I always saw the top quotes never changed, so I just assumed the entire site wasn’t really updated.
"Turn that frown upside down" isn't a phrase that would make much sense to people who didn't hear it before. More so if English isn't their first language or they are neurodivergent.
I don't believe I have ever heard this phrase used IRL. It's not a very nice thing to say in most contexts (saying this to another adult is outright bad - which is what makes the IRC joke funny in the first place).
"Turn that frown upside down" is a way of saying - don't be sad, be happy. Instead of having the corners of your mouth point down (frown), have them point up (smile). The joke is that if you move the eyes to the other side of the mouth, it remains a frown.
How interesting - I'm British, and I got the joke immediately. Yet, I'd hardly move my mouth if someone asked me to put on a frown. I'd never really thought about that one before.
The implication is that if you are sad there are more associated tells than just your mouth. Imagine a clown doing a mock sad face and exaggerating sadness by frowning.
I've always felt this was a forced contrivance and never that anyone literally thought frowning had anything to do with smiling.
I know everything is logged but I basically quit using irc when tons of channels started having bots that would log EVERYTHING in a room to public urls.
But it is really cool that I can read channel logs from events, like 9/11.
This is what happens when you don't use a proper capital-S Stack. Probably they weren't even using Kubernetes and a separate multi-cloud management DB for monitoring their data pipeline ingest.
There were also national versions, e.g. http://bash.hu is still online.
Would love to have a collection, there is far too little sociological/folklore research about the net.
That reminds me about the time when I used to run a similar website but focused on quotes from the IRC run by Flashback Forum (one of the larger/the largest? discussion forums in the Nordics).
Apparently I put the source for the site on GitHub (https://github.com/victorb/Flashback-Citat [12 year old PHP code!]) but I cannot find any actual archive of any of the quotes nor the running website, sadly :/
One of my all time favorite sites on the interenet, I am glad there is an archive version.
IRC and being ASCII only had their benefits. These days, Discord displacing IRC, for most people who even have PCs, there is a much different vibe of re-posting meme pics and gifs, or even youtube videos.
Yet, I don't know if this is because of the higher production requirements, or not, but there isn't a database of spontaneous funny moments.
Ironically, many of the "respectable" discord servers (i.e. revolving around hobbies people under the age of 18 aren't/can't get into) seem to not allow cross-server emojis (which mostly stops all usage of them and discourages gif-memeing as well).
Combined with "compact" mode in user settings, I find myself having a vaguely IRC-like experience in the servers worth participating in.
Terrible shame how many of us have come full circle just to do the same things on the corpo's surveillance state owned land instead of our own.
Yeah, I am getting prompted to subscribe and pay to even participte. Perhaps it's part of the larger theme of capitalism and monetization consuming all parts of human existence, including those that come from a purely artistic or communicative self expression. It's supposed to be part of the technological progress that builds us up, as a society, but I am strugging to fill the bash.org void.
The reasoning behind the banning of cross-server emojis in most "respectable" servers is that you can split an image into a 5x5 grid of "emoji" and post images in channels you're not supposed to. It's a mess.
I still use IRC every day and you can send unicode emoji, Japanese, etc. just fine (via external tools or copy/paste typically). It's up to the client/terminal emulator/font on the other end to make it look right. Plus posting links to images/videos, either at random public spots or ones you just uploaded to a filesharing site, is pretty common.
I have only been to bash.org a handful of times, but multiple channels I'm in have their own bots that can store quotes and spit them back out later, so it's a bit more small and local than bash.org. It's only for single-line messages, though, so not the same as capturing a whole conversation. I do also occasionally grab some lines to dump in a text file for personal enjoyment.
IRC doesn't actually specify an encoding for messages, only limiting each message to 512 bytes IIRC. This could and did cause encoding issues when dealing with non-english language text.
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[ 5.0 ms ] story [ 300 ms ] threadKind of thing that gets put together as a "hey this is cool" project, it runs and people use it, so we'll just leave it up... months later its more popular, the original authors of the system moved on, but no one can just pull the plug now. this is a public resource, so we'll just keep feeding it.
Years later, someone may go through and fix the design problems; or not. It might be no one figured out how to resolve the dependency on PHP2 or Python1 the original code may have had.
https://web.archive.org/web/20230701000000*/bash.org
https://gitlab.com/dwrodri/bash_irc_quotes
Ironically, those quotes will likely survive a lot of more modern content. Even viral stuff, these days, will disappear incredibly quickly - bat an eyelid and the imgur link is broken, the twitter post is paywalled, the reddit thread is taken down... And any private service like Discord or Slack will happily burn everything after a few months.
"The internet does not forget" is such a massive lie.
This is a warning, not a guarantee.
Maybe the server's password is hunter2. Let's see whether can I access it.
Edit: Nope. Seems firewalled.
You can try putting your HN password in a comment, it would be visible only by you, and the others will not see it.
hunter2
Have you seen a doctor?
No, just stars
When I edit, I can see it, but when I save the comment, it becomes starred. It even randomizes the length every time I save.
Brilliant!
EDIT: thanks to another commenter, I understood that what's happening in the above comments is just a meme and HN isn't storing plaintext passwords. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
HN does not actually know your password or hide it in comments.
Does it not know? What if I post it in this comment? My password is *****.
It reminds me of Facebook allowing login even when you've mistyped your password: https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/214814/why-can-...
Wouldn’t work if your password contains spaces.
Don't write long comments. Show some love to HN's server carrying its O(n^2) burden.
The only way it can be realistically implemented involves the storage of clear-text user password to enable string replacement during comment submission. Either that or converting user comment to a prefix/suffix table (or something similar) and then hash each item to search for a match. Both option is ridiculously unnecessary.
Anyway, my HN password is ****. I bet it don't work.
https://archive.is/0y1yT is the archive of http://www.bash.org/?244321
What do we do?
Sigh
I put on my robe and wizard hat
https://web.archive.org/web/20190228221758/http://www.bash.o...
I hate Google but my pihole is configured to use their DNS resolvers. Lesser of two evils.
Breaking DNS entirely is much worse behaviour, especially because GeoDNS itself is arguably not in the spirit of DNS which is distributing a consistent database, not making it up on the fly based on the client's info. The archive.is admin is being ridiculous, the least they could do is block anyone not using a resolver supporting ECS to be consistent, but no they have something personal against Cloudflare.
Relax, they didn't. Your password is 3 characters longer.
The IP is not shared. It reverse-resolves, too.
So, it's not dismantled and thrown to side.
Looks like the hosting provider, Idologic, got bought by Stablepoint. Maybe they have somehow blocked the site during the merger?
<erno> hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is.
Source: http://web.archive.org/web/20230610235249/http://bash.org/?5...
The someone had what was termed "the connector of evil". Apparently coax and thick had the same signal... just thick was more rigid about where you connected into it. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10BASE5 and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vampire_tap ). The connector of evil looked like a 10b5 terminator on one side and 10b2 on the other... and passed the signal between them.
When adding another computer onto the 10b2 segment, we would invariably disrupt the wave in the wire and some devices would drop off.
The trick was to have each machine ping -f one of the systems on 10bT and redirect its output to /dev/audio. If the machine was making noise, it was good. And so then we'd fiddle with different lengths of coax between the T connectors until everything was buzzing away.
I don’t advise using Juul products for this and other reasons.
http://resworld.eolith.net/staff.html
The email address is no use as that is my domain name and I dropped it in like 1997 o_O
Dustin: if you see this I would love to pull my DMs off Resworld :)
* At least 1 number is required
* At least 1 symbol is required
These days it's probably 'Hunter2024!'
Reminds me of Gigablast disappearing, a search engine that was in the spotlight in the early 00's, a sole developer competing amongst AlltheWeb and Google.
When their site disappeared there was barely a mention.
I guess since the mass of geocities was uprooted it's become the norm, the churn of the web and generally accepted. archive.org is great, but it does seem strange how transient information has become on the web. HN and archive.org have good memories.
Edit: I think it'd be far better off on Wikipedia than Twitter
Mirrors still exist
(Also, Twitter already deleted old data, so these quotes wouldn't be much safer there)
My point is that the comment was praising independent services when it doesn't make sense: bash.org, the independent service, shutting down and people want to store backups in a more trustworthy centralized service, much like the two backups you linked.
Wikiquotes could be appropriate. Submitting a dump of the entire database to Archive.org could be appropriate. (For example, Archive.org hosts user-submitted dumps of things like product manuals, old TV shows, old computer games.)
[1] And even if submitting required licensing the contribution under some Wikimedia-friendly license, considering each person included in a quote would also have to agree to such a license... and I have a feeling bloodninja wasn't following up their conversations with "would you mind sending me a signed release of the above six (6) messages under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike license version 3.0?"
At some age (and I'm getting to that), you just tire of being a sysadm, esp. for "home"/hobby stuff.
This is why I'm scaling down my home infrastructure to SBCs and run everything on Debian with stock package repositories. It reduces tons of burden to something very manageable.
If you're not running strict firewall rules to limit your SSH access and if you expose other services outside, they also need constant patching against newer attacks.
Lastly, security standards evolve. Your SSH and SSL layers need to be kept up to date to patch holes and add newer algorithms while deprecating others, further reducing the attack surface [1].
[0]: https://www.exploit-db.com/exploits/50383
[1]: https://lists.mindrot.org/pipermail/openssh-unix-announce/20...
Sometimes you will, sometimes you won't.
:)
Nah. That's bull. A static site can be put on a web server and the site never needs to be updated again. I have web sites people started hosting on my servers in the '90s that are still there, still serving, and haven't been touched in twenty years.
Sure, I update the servers and software, but the actual amount of work needed for the site is, quite literally, zero.
http://www.baloneypotd.com/
> and putting on a few ads (ethical, non-intrusive, etc.) can net you passive $100+/mo.
I think this is what I said? Quoting myself:
> Even if it's a static HTML, you need to patch your webserver, OS, and migrate the whole stack to newer versions.
I don't think I said "you need to update/patch the webpage itself".
Huh. The password masking algorithm changes some words possibly.
The same person or people who run the servers aren't necessarily the same person or people who make the web sites.
People can just as easily have static sites on SDF.org. There'd be no reason for anyone to fret about whether the servers are up to date.
Also, nobody ever needs to "migrate the whole stack to newer versions". That's just not a thing with a static site.
BTW, I'm on SDF. I love these guys. They sometimes nuke my TTRSS user, but that's OK. :D
The whole stack, at least in my parlance, means anything and everything between your (static) webpage and hardware. From kernel to the server which serves your page.
IOW, I use stack as in "LAMP" stack. In this case it's only LA, but it's a stack nonetheless.
I don't like to use oversized tools for small jobs. Also, it's not fun.
http://resworld.eolith.net/staff.html
I don't remember if it is Linux or *BSD now, but I don't even know how you would update a kernel or libraries that old lol
...and it has ports open.
Maybe you should give it a backrub, IDK. It's possible to iteratively update that thing AFAICS.
No way. That's barely true of Adsense anymore much less whatever non-Adsense network you have in mind. And not for a dead site like bash.org.
I remember back when it got popular it seemed to stop accepting submissions after a short time.
And the hunter2 stuff got stuck on the top list forever, probably because the mechanism is self-reinforcing by making it easiest to vote for the stuff already on the top.
> Managers: Ninety
> Moderators: Amanda, vx0, kastein
I'm guessing they might be around on Libera or Freenode
bash.org has given me endless laughs. It always cheered me up.
Its too bad the the top 100/200 hadn't changed in years. I guess that's because IRC has been mostly dead for a while now (no more new submission) and that the voting algorithm favored a self-feeding feedback loop. Nonetheless, it was fun to come back once every few years and re-read the top quotes.
Hopefully someone revives the site. Hopefully it's just that the server needs some love or something. Do we have any idea who is behind it?
I checked it every couple years or so when I remembered some part of some top quote and wanted to get the full thing. I always saw the top quotes never changed, so I just assumed the entire site wasn’t really updated.
False
no enterprise is using i seriously, chat platforms of course don't use it, and niche/hobbyists have long since moved to discord and reddit.
Of course there's holdouts, but I think it's fair to say 90 percent of IRC type chat hosts are dead/gone.
200K daily users[1] would disagree
> no enterprise is using i seriously
No surprise. I'd hate to use IRC for anything related to work.
> chat platforms of course don't use it
Twitch still uses IRC.
> niche/hobbyists have long since moved to discord and reddit.
Many popular open-source projects, gaming groups, youtube channels, and forums still use IRC.
[1]: https://netsplit.de/
I thought the humor on this site hadn't aged well, but this one got me:
But the poster flipped the emoji so it was a frowning face pointing right, then a frowning face pointing left
"Turn that frown upside down" isn't a phrase that would make much sense to people who didn't hear it before. More so if English isn't their first language or they are neurodivergent.
I don't believe I have ever heard this phrase used IRL. It's not a very nice thing to say in most contexts (saying this to another adult is outright bad - which is what makes the IRC joke funny in the first place).
But the chatter just flipped the whole face, so it's still sad: :( ):
Expectation
:( becomes :)
Subversion
:( becomes ):
I've always felt this was a forced contrivance and never that anyone literally thought frowning had anything to do with smiling.
:)
https://web.archive.org/web/20230401050146/http://bash.org/?...
(some sort of duck game for HN could be neat. Can't see why it wouldn't be possible...)
But it is really cool that I can read channel logs from events, like 9/11.
<Khassaki> HI EVERYBODY!!!!!!!!!!
<Judge-Mental> try pressing the the Caps Lock key
<Khassaki> O THANKS!!! ITS SO MUCH EASIER TO WRITE NOW!!!!!!!
<Judge-Mental> fuck me
https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.bash.org/?835030
<h|tler> HOW CAN YOU TELL IM 13 BY HOW IM WRITEING???????
Has also been dead for 2 years now. I found a 20 year old quote of mine on archive.org. How time flies.
Apparently I put the source for the site on GitHub (https://github.com/victorb/Flashback-Citat [12 year old PHP code!]) but I cannot find any actual archive of any of the quotes nor the running website, sadly :/
https://web.archive.org/web/20100222/http://bash.org.az
https://web.archive.org/web/20070217/http://bash.org.by
https://web.archive.org/web/20060424/http://bash.org.il
https://web.archive.org/web/20071022/http://bash.org.kg
https://web.archive.org/web/20061203/http://bash.org.lv
https://web.archive.org/web/20090830/http://bash.org.md
https://web.archive.org/web/20060101/http://bash.org.pl
https://web.archive.org/web/20090421/http://bash.org.ro
https://web.archive.org/web/20040611/http://bash.org.ru
https://web.archive.org/web/20110523/http://bash.org.tj
https://web.archive.org/web/20080105/http://bash.org.ua
https://web.archive.org/web/20101117/http://ibash.org.pl
https://web.archive.org/web/20070609/http://ibash.org.ru
https://web.archive.org/web/20091004/http://bash.cc
https://web.archive.org/web/20030805/http://bash.cx
https://web.archive.org/web/20080315/http://bash.ee
https://web.archive.org/web/20040608/http://bash.hu
https://web.archive.org/web/20090322/http://bash.im
https://web.archive.org/web/20060205/http://bash.lv
https://web.archive.org/web/20070227/http://qdb.gr
https://web.archive.org/web/20060402/http://qdb.hu
https://web.archive.org/web/20040420/http://qdb.us
Its importance was immediately obvious.
Zsh?
Fish?
IRC and being ASCII only had their benefits. These days, Discord displacing IRC, for most people who even have PCs, there is a much different vibe of re-posting meme pics and gifs, or even youtube videos.
Yet, I don't know if this is because of the higher production requirements, or not, but there isn't a database of spontaneous funny moments.
Combined with "compact" mode in user settings, I find myself having a vaguely IRC-like experience in the servers worth participating in.
Terrible shame how many of us have come full circle just to do the same things on the corpo's surveillance state owned land instead of our own.
Somehow, in the age of TikTok and Discord, ASCII art has survived
<insert amogus ASCII art here>
I still use IRC every day and you can send unicode emoji, Japanese, etc. just fine (via external tools or copy/paste typically). It's up to the client/terminal emulator/font on the other end to make it look right. Plus posting links to images/videos, either at random public spots or ones you just uploaded to a filesharing site, is pretty common.
I have only been to bash.org a handful of times, but multiple channels I'm in have their own bots that can store quotes and spit them back out later, so it's a bit more small and local than bash.org. It's only for single-line messages, though, so not the same as capturing a whole conversation. I do also occasionally grab some lines to dump in a text file for personal enjoyment.