Ask HN: What are some good food suff to have on hand when the power is out
Here I am in Central Texas and we are facing another, maybe, cold winter (This week is going to be a little unusually cold) and I would like to buy a few things to have on hand in the event that the power is off for a week again. The house here is all electric. We have a generator but it is mostly to keep refrigerator on (is this irony?) and run a little space heater for my elderly mother.
What sort of things can I get to make meals more interesting with maybe just hot water? Sandwiches, ramen noddles, oatmeal all come to mind but I am hoping for a few ideas that will seam more "We are going through a not cooking but eating well." phase and not "We are eating this way because the power is out." Any ideas?
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[ 3.0 ms ] story [ 95.0 ms ] threadI think perhaps you are conflating a savory flavor ala umami with the concept of savory dishes, i.e., non-sweet dishes.
Whilst I would agree that couscous isn't umami, I do consider it to be a savory dish by default as it isn't sweet in its unseasoned state.
You are asking a language model to tell you what taste wheat has, instead of using your own mouth, nose and eyes?
What on earth is it about AI hype that has people forgetting how to function as human beings?
But when you are in your house, what advantage do they have over cooking from scratch with actual ingredients?
Pasta, beans, couscous, meat...can all be cooked the same way you're heating water for your dehydrated meal.
Shrug. Just tradeoffs between cost, time, health, convenience, and taste, like most food.
Through most of human history people cooked over fire.
earlier, different user, posted the same thing 6 times: https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=whiplash451
..someone working up a new "spam to HN" script?
I am no sure what exactly I was doing wrong (Except I should check better if the post got through).
Edit: One typo above. Also, this question is less about bare survival and more about comfort for someone a little less able to cope. A lot of good and interesting suggestion. Thank you everyone.
No clue. What happened was...
i had noticed that a surprising number of people were posting the same things 2-3 times and assumed it was due to some non-obvious error. Then i posted something (must have been /item?id=38989363) and, indeed, got a CloudFlare error. My instinct was to tap Back and Submit again but the number of repeated posts i'd noticed earlier tipped me off not to. Instead i visited /newest and there was my post, despite the CloudFlare error.
<https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39002310>
(Sort of an anti-example of the problem, people's experiences may have varied.)
I've never opened or used it, unfortunately. My friend informs me that camp-stove cooking is a very, very slow process that could take hours to heat a meal. I really want to test this thing out before I have to use it in a crisis.
I suppose that I should maintain a stock of food that I can actually prepare with this system, because I really don't normally cook anything at home. I doubt I could make pasta, because that requires boiling. At this point, I would probably clear out the freezer, which currently contains a lot of sourdough bread, frozen fruits and veggies. I could probably get a few presentable meals out of that stuff.
Definitely do, you can just have a no electricity/running water day at home or go camping to test if what you have is going to work or not. The worst thing would be to actually need your cooking gear and notice you're missing something silly like a lighter to turn it on.
[0] Random Amazon listing, but something very similar to this: https://www.amazon.com/Iwatani-Cassette-grill-tatsujin-CB-TA...
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nabemono
When you are at home, there is no reason to stock stuff whose main advantage is being lightweight.
There are cautions about using camp stoves indoors but people have been surviving cooking on propane and methane (natural gas) stoves inside homes.
As for eating well get a camp stove. You can also run this off a big propane bottle with the same adapter used for the Mr. Buddy heater. You can use the camp stove to make side dishes. You'll also want an outdoor grill. Webber charcoal grills work great and you can do both hot and low and slow cooks with the right technique. Since you have a generator you could also consider an inexpensive pellet grill. This will require electricity, but not much. You can use this type of grill like an oven, and it is much easier to manage compared to charcoal. With this setup, you can make anything. Pizza, chicken, roast, and ribs all come to mine. I'm smoking a chuck roast on my pellet grill in the snow right now.
Thinking long term, I've been thinking of the same thing with the low temps and heavy snow we got in the PNW this week. My house is also all electric. I have a heat pump and electric aux furnace. Heat pump is slow start/solar ready and has been doing fine with temps in the teens. It only needs 30 amps to run. I looked into whole house generators and I'd need an enormous propane tank to run it for just a couple of days. Having the heat pump available year round is appealing. Has anyone gone with a smaller generator to just run their heat pump?
My winter plan is to supplement heat with a fireplace insert, but I haven't gotten that far yet.
I used to keep a portable AC that had a slot for window venting when I lived in a place in Phoenix where the power used to go out in the summer a few times each year.
Whether portable propane heaters are considered "safe" to run indoors depends on what state/country you are in, so make of that what you will. Personally I'd rather not add the additional variable of carbon monoxide to what is already an emergency situation, but perhaps a few CO detectors would alleviate that concern.
If you can open the freezer, ceviche is a really nice food to enjoy with fresh veggies and requires no heat.
That said, I agree with the others here that a camp stove would be worthwhile if only to feel like you’re eating a true at-home dish rather than a backpacking meal. You can likely get away with this in your garage so long as you maintain good ventilation when the burner is on.
As others have mentioned, propane for heating and cooking... A few solar chargers and battery units and a generator.
Canned meat and vegetables. I usually buy packs of sardines at Costco and have some around. I also keep a few packs of jerky on hand
Lithium-based batteries in particular have been dropping significantly in price over the past few years.
The emergency kind you can get in big tubs at Costco: https://www.costco.com/chef's-banquet-one-month-emergency-fo...
The backpacking stuff you can get many places, like REI or any outdoor store.
Some brands: https://mountainhouse.com/collections/camping-food-and-backp...
https://backpackerspantry.com/
There's also meal replacement powders like https://huel.com/products/huel-hot-savoury (these are more nutritionally balanced but not as tasty IMO)
If you have a food coop nearby, they'll usually have dehydrated soups in bulk too. Some, like split pea soup, can be very protein rich and calorie dense. You can also get dehydrated textured vegetable protein that tastes like nothing, but good in a true emergency I guess.
I add all sort of things for taste, and prefer diced apples, green olives, and raisins. Raw red cabbage, diced, into the mix right after it is done cooking softens the cabbage and adds sweetness. Cauliflower is sweet, too (as are beets, turnips, parsnips, carrots, yams, ...). Another upside is that bulk dry beans are not costly. Sprouted lentils can be eaten raw, but I've read to avoid eating raw sprouted white beans- I don't remember why.
That's my recommendation. Good luck over there.
Tuna cans and bread to make tuna sandwiches.
Some chocolate or other treats to keep the fun.
Not everyone knows it but you don't need to keep the water boiling when cooking pasta : https://lifehacker.com/you-don-t-need-to-boil-your-pasta-jus...
Use it as a stovetop for normal cooking or get fancy and do some wok cooking.
A Dutch oven can be used for classic winter meals like stews and braises.