The latest build is 3 days old same as Yuzu. The difference that Yuzu used a webinstaller, while Pineapple is precompiled for Windows and as a Linux Appimage
probably not, as they are not selling the emulator for profit.
If Nintendo were against ALL types of emulation they could (and would) have gone against all the other emulators that still exist. But they're mostly focused on shutting down for-profit emulators, so that's why they targeted yuzu.
Nintendo Defends Legal Action Against Dolphin, Says Emulators "Stifle Innovation"
and my favorite: "While we recognize the passion that players have for classic games, supporting emulation also supports the illegal piracy of our products. Wherever possible, Nintendo and its licensees attempt to find ways to bring legitimate classics to current systems (via Virtual Console titles, for example)."
There is little use in asking the court to award an amount that the defendants cannot pay, and in a copyright suit like this would make the plaintiffs look excessively malicious. That amount must be somehow calculated to fit.
Reminder that the settlement against Gary Bowser was from the criminal investigation against him, as was his prison sentence. The civil damages added more for sure, but the US DOJ was a big part of that outcome.
They set up a company (LLC) to (presumably) manage the funding. I think the last patreon earnings were around 40k per month or so, but who knows what other means of acquiring money they had with that LLC. I'm sure they didn't pull out that $2.4m from thin air. It might be more than what they actually earned, but then again, their target is a company not a single individual so it makes sense that the total settlement is higher.
These are not a couple of hackers interested in coding an emulator for fun. It was a commercial venue designed to extract enough money to earn the main devs a comfortable living. That's a whole different goal.
I hate Nintendo for their takedowns and lawyers like everyone else on HN, but I tend to side with them in this case.
I bet Nintendo is bribing these devs. As if they didn't know the users would do shitty things with the emulator. Edit: It was the other way around. I think they are muscling these devs with lawsuits.
The LLC (Tropic Haze, which is financially liable) folded, not the devs personally. Nintendo will grab whatever scrap is left (Patreon, etc) from the bankruptcy proceedings.
I am -very- sad about this. In the past few weeks I've been playing a lot of games on Yuzu that I own for the Switch. The ergonomics of YouTube movies on the left - Hyrule Warriors on the right monitors is just prime time fun. Pure dumb fun.
But the game runs like ass on the physical switch. RIP Yuzu, you will be missed.
Don’t worry, there’s an unlimited supply of keyboard warriors dying for the chance to convince the world they are noble freedom fighters by forking the code.
> 7. With the exception of paragraphs 5 and 6 herein, the Court further enjoins
> Defendant and its members from destroying, transferring, altering, moving, returning, concealing,
> or in any manner hiding evidence relevant to the matters set forth herein—including any and all
> video game consoles, video games (or constituent elements thereof, such as video game files),
> ROMs, and video game emulators (and any digital files comprising the same) that infringe
> Nintendo’s intellectual property rights, and/or which were used in connection with developing or
> using Yuzu—unless authorized by Nintendo in writing. Defendant and its members are also
> enjoined from allowing evidence to be destroyed, altered, or concealed by third parties if the
> evidence is under Defendant or its members’ possession, custody, or control.
Aaaaand there it is. Nintendo figured out that Yuzu is not clean-room emulation, which is the only legal path to emulation. Reverse-engineering anything from Nintendo is verboten. Developing your own from scratch is not, hence why Dolphin is likely in the clear.
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[ 3.4 ms ] story [ 113 ms ] threadThe latest build is 3 days old same as Yuzu. The difference that Yuzu used a webinstaller, while Pineapple is precompiled for Windows and as a Linux Appimage
The content seems to be similar but also different.
And Citra because that's gone too https://archive.org/details/citra-latest-builds-4th-march-20...
If Nintendo were against ALL types of emulation they could (and would) have gone against all the other emulators that still exist. But they're mostly focused on shutting down for-profit emulators, so that's why they targeted yuzu.
Of course people shared them publicly, are you thinking of one of the unaffiliated github accounts that reposted them?
https://www.thegamer.com/nintendo-defends-dolphin-lawsuit-sa...
and my favorite: "While we recognize the passion that players have for classic games, supporting emulation also supports the illegal piracy of our products. Wherever possible, Nintendo and its licensees attempt to find ways to bring legitimate classics to current systems (via Virtual Console titles, for example)."https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/...
So does the original Switch which is trivial to hack and dump games from.
That's part of the reason why it costs millions of dollars to build half a mile of light rail and such.
Yuzu emulator developers settle Nintendo lawsuit, pay $2.4M in damages - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39593647
It also shows that for-profit models of emulator development are a bad idea.
Tell that to Gary Bowser.
Nintendo absolutely can, and do, request punitive damages that will put the defendants in permanent debt.
These are not a couple of hackers interested in coding an emulator for fun. It was a commercial venue designed to extract enough money to earn the main devs a comfortable living. That's a whole different goal.
I hate Nintendo for their takedowns and lawyers like everyone else on HN, but I tend to side with them in this case.
But the game runs like ass on the physical switch. RIP Yuzu, you will be missed.
This is a rather disrespectful way to ignore a tragedy & suffering: utterly short on sympathy & consideration of where the world has been left.
It insinuates that they voluntarily shut down their project, which is glaringly false.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Efl0Jj7LlV0
by folk-style acoustic guitar strummers and singers Yuzu. [1999 Album Yuzuen]
> Defendant and its members from destroying, transferring, altering, moving, returning, concealing,
> or in any manner hiding evidence relevant to the matters set forth herein—including any and all
> video game consoles, video games (or constituent elements thereof, such as video game files),
> ROMs, and video game emulators (and any digital files comprising the same) that infringe
> Nintendo’s intellectual property rights, and/or which were used in connection with developing or
> using Yuzu—unless authorized by Nintendo in writing. Defendant and its members are also
> enjoined from allowing evidence to be destroyed, altered, or concealed by third parties if the
> evidence is under Defendant or its members’ possession, custody, or control.
Aaaaand there it is. Nintendo figured out that Yuzu is not clean-room emulation, which is the only legal path to emulation. Reverse-engineering anything from Nintendo is verboten. Developing your own from scratch is not, hence why Dolphin is likely in the clear.