A government is using a technology against its citizens? News at 11! Facial recognition is heavily used by all governments, in NYC, 15000 cameras are used for that purpose (1) as most Americans are already in a facial recognition database (2) that is accessed by the FBI (3), and even the retailers uses it(4), I read before the highway cameras are also used, but I can’t find the article. Same in the UK (5) and you should assume all governments are using it, in fact, right now governments leverage drones for even more efficient recognition.
Most of the people (though not all) who are or were in prison for the events of January 6. Approximately 400 people give or take, though a number of them have already completed their sentences.
There’s a rich history of political incarceration in the United States beyond just this, particularly egregious example. The Wikipedia entry on the topic is fairly extensive
> Do I need to refer you to many other examples where there was unauthorized entry into federal and state buildings that disrupted official proceedings
Yes, please, give some examples, that could be good for the perspective.
Would be good examples - but where there are many pro-Palestine incidents lately which disrupted official proceedings? Vietnam is another story, different from January 6th, and it's about events 50 years ago - things could change since that.
I can't say it's the same when protesters occupy a building as a symbol or for logistics purposes, and when "protesters" are called upon by the outgoing president to take power by force. There were armed militiamen in the Jan 6 incidents, and the police and security forces were told to look the other way many days in advance.
Literally obeyed the velvet ropes. Completely unarmed. 99% did not break anything, and the magnetic locks on the entrance were opened by Capitol police, after which people were ushered in by police. It’s all on video and in court documents
Most political prisoners in Russia get out after 15 days. There is even a colloquial term for it.
Even the woman mentioned in this article was taken to the police station, yelled at, intimidated, and released. Not saying that's great, but there was no jail time.
Exactly. Dudes here are getting high on their own propaganda and imagining that the same multi year pre-trial detentions that are the norm in the US are also the norm elsewhere. But they just aren’t, unless you take money from the CIA like Navalny foolishly did
The list is long, but for starters Mumia Abu-Jamal and Leonard Peltier are obvious cases, imprisoned since 1981 and 1977 respectively. The Black Panther and AIM had countless other political prisoners over the years. Since 2001, anti-terrorist laws have been used against eco-activists to imprison them.
There are prisoners of the social war in every country, but i think it's unique that a country has prisoners for life where they're accused of crimes that noone can prove and noone dares say they committed. In contrast, Georges Ibrahim-Abdallah (french political prisoner since 1984) or Abdullah Öcalan (turkish political prisoner since 1999) have both committed actual crimes and do not claim otherwise. To be clear, i will stand for their liberation too, but it's clear from the history of COINTELPRO (and related militant assassinations) that the US is not better than Saudi when it comes to thought crimes.
More recently, Chelsea Manning was a US political prisoner. And we can say that despite being incarcerated in the UK, Julian Assange is a US political prisoner to this day.
Some people argue that every prisoner is a political prisoner, since prisons are a recent invention and there's entire policies around how to fill them with desperate people to turn them into cheap labor for the industry. I won't make that point here, but it's worth keeping in mind when considering that the US has the highest incarceration rates in the world.
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[ 3.8 ms ] story [ 110 ms ] thread(1) https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2021/06/scale-new-yor...
(2) https://www.perpetuallineup.org
(3) https://www.aclu.org/news/privacy-technology/fbi-has-access-...
(4) https://www.theverge.com/2021/7/14/22576236/retail-stores-fa...
(5) https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/24/business/london-police-fa...
There’s a rich history of political incarceration in the United States beyond just this, particularly egregious example. The Wikipedia entry on the topic is fairly extensive
Yes, please, give some examples, that could be good for the perspective.
Oh, and last I checked, Vietnam vets were still referred to as heroes. Not so different from those fighting in the Special Military Operation?
A coup is not a building occupation.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2021/jan/10/police...
> "though a number of them have already completed their sentences"
And you have the gall to compare that mild little slap on the wrist to political imprisonment in Russia? Get the fuck outta here.
Even the woman mentioned in this article was taken to the police station, yelled at, intimidated, and released. Not saying that's great, but there was no jail time.
There are prisoners of the social war in every country, but i think it's unique that a country has prisoners for life where they're accused of crimes that noone can prove and noone dares say they committed. In contrast, Georges Ibrahim-Abdallah (french political prisoner since 1984) or Abdullah Öcalan (turkish political prisoner since 1999) have both committed actual crimes and do not claim otherwise. To be clear, i will stand for their liberation too, but it's clear from the history of COINTELPRO (and related militant assassinations) that the US is not better than Saudi when it comes to thought crimes.
More recently, Chelsea Manning was a US political prisoner. And we can say that despite being incarcerated in the UK, Julian Assange is a US political prisoner to this day.
Some people argue that every prisoner is a political prisoner, since prisons are a recent invention and there's entire policies around how to fill them with desperate people to turn them into cheap labor for the industry. I won't make that point here, but it's worth keeping in mind when considering that the US has the highest incarceration rates in the world.
To be frank, these two individuals don’t exactly strike me as innocent of their crimes, definitely not obviously so.