- In this specific case, Indian Investigators summoned him 9 times and he refused their request for meeting and finally he was arrested after court refused to stay any arrest by Investigators
IMHO, he should have corporated with Investigator, rather than trying to keep them at bay.
PS: I used to be huge supporter of him during those time (2011-2014) and even donated small money (my only donation to any political party till now) while he formed the party (which I regret now).
You've provided an accurate overview of the situation. Additionally, the ex-Chief Minister of Delhi has taken an unconventional stance by choosing to administer from behind bars, despite his alleged involvement in a significant liquor scam, which also led to the incarceration of his associates for embezzling over 500 crore rupees. Given these circumstances, the question arises as to why he should receive any special treatment.
What's more, this case has garnered exceptional attention from international bodies, including the governments of Germany and the United States, as well as the United Nations, which have all expressed concerns in various forms. This level of international interest is peculiar, especially when considering that several other Chief Ministers, such as Hemant Soren, Laloo Yadav, and Jayalalitha, have faced imprisonment for corruption charges without attracting similar global scrutiny. The focus on the Delhi ex-CM raises questions about the selective attention of these international entities.
Moreover, the case has taken a further twist with allegations from the leader of a terrorist organization, accusing the Delhi ex-CM of accepting a substantial bribe in exchange for the release of a notorious terrorist, a claim that highlights a lack of intent or capability to fulfill such a promise. This has turned the situation into a subject of ridicule.
Corruption is corruption, regardless of who does it. You seem to not care and look at it only with an anti-India lens. I can show you 10 cases of the ED going after BJP leaders for every one now. Does that mean ED is just dancing to the tunes of the ruling govt - whichever it is at the time? If so, then Congress was in power for ~70 years, so imagine the power they wielded against opposition parties.
There are two scenarios here and neither looks good.
The first one is that it is really fighting corruption but mainly targeting corruption from outside the Ruling party. This sends a message that India is fine with corruption as long as you are in the right party with the right connections.
The second one is that this is not about real corruption but just accusations to take out the opposition which sends a clear message.
I think painting criticism about a corrupted Indian government and judicial system is not anti-indian sentiment for any reasonable person. At this point india is democracy by name only. Much closer to Russia than anything else.
Actually, that's not quite the case. The Indian elections are fast approaching, and history has repeatedly demonstrated that attacking any opposition shortly before elections can inadvertently boost their standing through sympathy from the electorate.
It's also hard to accuse the ruling party of being politically naive; especially considering PM Modi's unbroken winning streak over the past 25 years or so. So, the question arises: why would the current administration take such a seemingly self-destructive step, essentially handing the opposition a narrative of victimhood? It's a thought worth considering.
> If so, then Congress was in power for ~70 years, so imagine the power they wielded against opposition parties.
Congress did do that, during the Indira Gandhi Emergency. Forget much on how they jailed the current ruling party's leadership? And in return, they got promptly lambasted for it globally, and signs still remain even today. That doesn't mean that because Congress did it, it's BJP's turn now.
As a nation, we should be moving forward, but BJP seems to be intent on following the Congress playbook, but on a more aggressive scale than Congress could ever conceive. After all, India's first political party still had to show signs of being a democracy, while the descendant of India's first fascist party does not.
> As a nation, we should be moving forward, but BJP seems to be intent on following the Congress playbook, but on a more aggressive scale than Congress could ever conceive.
More aggressive? Can you show any evidence to support your statement above?
- The current central government's conviction rate is 2%. In 98% of cases accused are released.
- The current central government uses ED and other investigation agencies to force other commercial companies to "donate" money through electoral bonds.
- The main accuser in this case donated a huge amount to the central government party and then he became the witness against the Delhi CM. Not only that "Delhi liquor policy case: Accused-turned-approver’s father gets Lok Sabha ticket from BJP ally [1] "
- One of the Delhi Government's ministers Sisodia was arrested one year ago, and he is still in jail and the ED hasn't been able to prove his case.
- 95% of cases filed by the Indian Investigators Agency known as ED are against the opposition party members.
- If the accused opposition party members join the central government party, all cases are dropped against them.
Well, in itself that doesn't mean much - irregularities and power struggles within indian political paries is routine. Plus given the track record of the law enforcement agencies to arrest/Crack down with an agenda, usually along the lines that suits the political party.
Even worse, legislation now provides the police and so on broad power in arresting subjects without allowing a fair trial( or just a trial!)
For example under the anti terrorism act. Such legislation is frequently used to arrest on grounds that probably have little to do with their supposed criminal act.
This methodology of enforcement goes back decades way before India got independent, inherited from British Indian authorities. It's even more blatant under the current ruling party.
It seems there might be a misunderstanding of the situation. The judiciary in India operates independently from the current government, led by the BJP, ensuring a separation of powers. Additionally, it's important to note that Al Jazeera has been criticized for its coverage, which some perceive as biased against India. I encourage a deeper examination of the corruption case at hand before forming a conclusion.
Investigation agencies like ED and IT have only gone after the opposition parties.
There is no misunderstanding of the situation. ED, CID and SBI (One of the biggest banks in India) turned into the most corrupt organization in the history of India.
BJP and Modi government openly destroyed all the government agencies and made them corrupt.
Yes, what can you do if they are corrupt? Give them a free pass JUST because they are opposition? Were ED, CID and SBI non-existent before the current BJP party?? Why then did the former congress govts not make them independent - after all they were in power for almost 70 years since independence??
What you said is true. But I was talking about this line in particular
> There is no misunderstanding of the situation. ED, CID and SBI (One of the biggest banks in India) turned into the most corrupt organization in the history of India.
No, my argument is that they do not like India / Indians. Show me something positive they have covered about India. I wouldnt care about them otherwise.
I can extend your line of argument to say that the reason maybe that you don't like them because of qatar connection and they are Muslim majority country. And in india there is a lot of nationalists that are Islamphopics and that ruling party is oppressing Muslim minority in india. But you would say that this is wrong and no evidence of that and I can say that you don't cover any Muslim minority oppression and that is why you are anti-muslim. This is how the argument you are presenting is flawed.
So how do you define a minority? Muslims are the second largest majority in India and also the world. Also, if as you say muslims are oppressed in India, how and why is it that most muslims from Pakistan and Bangladesh want to enter India and none of the existing muslims within India want to leave.
One only has to follow the population trends of muslims inside India, and that of non-muslims (especially Hindus) in Pakistan / Bangladesh / Afghanistan to understand the truth. Please do not go about spreading falsehoods when the things I have mentioned above can be checked independently. Please.
I didn't say that you are Islamphopic. My point is that your argument is bad and if someone else used it they can reach to the conclusion that you are Islamphopic (as an example).
I don't also want to go into discussion about this particular problem with India because it will be off topic. But I will just answer that
> So how do you define a minority?
You define that with respect to the demographic of the country/place we are talking about. Tech workers in the US are minority among population, it doesn't matter that they probably not a minority in Silicon Valley.
> You define that with respect to the demographic of the country/place we are talking about. Tech workers in the US are minority among population, it doesn't matter that they probably not a minority in Silicon Valley
Ok, if that is your definition of a minority, please elaborate how you are making the leap to call Muslims in India a minority?
It doesn't matter whether a source likes you or not. It matters if what they are reporting is factual and verifiable. If you only go with sources that say nice things about you, then you're biased and are living in a bubble of your own narcissism.
That's my point. I was trying to be nuanced. Hatred has led AJ to frequently report baseless news about India / Indians / Hindus. India is a large, complex country despite extreme diversity and hostile neighbors peddling terrorism every single day. Hindus are largely peaceful and law abiding - not only within India but abroad too. But if you read AJ, you'd come to the totally opposite conclusions.
If they asked Apple most probably they don’t have access. In current case once they got access, they go after each of the persons in contacts and create cases against and if they are low profile candidates they might go missing.
Modi has become a dictator. Ruthlessly sending everyone to jail who don't cooperate. Note that Modi is an uneducated Road side Tea Seller before he climbed to PM position. Now he wants to keep his power at any cost. Delhi CM, Arvind Kejriwal and Team are the only ones who can topple Modi Govt. Note that Arvind Kejriwal won almost 65 out of 70 seats in each of his wins agains BJP govt. And in punjab this is the same situation. Fake cases are pretty common for anyone stand against dictatorship of Modi
I don't like many policies of the current government including the way opposition is treated. But I think this specific statement should be down voted due to both denigrating tea sellers and presenting wrong facts.
Modi is currently PM for 2 terms because he is able to outsmart his opponents both inside his own party and in opposition. It hardly matters if he was selling tea at some point in his life. He is not uneducated. In India one can find many smart guys without formal education and many dumb guys with stellar degrees.
Arvind Kejriwal's party i.e. AAP is in power in only 2 small states i.e. Delhi and Punjab. Those 2 states can send total 20 MPs to parliament with a strength of 543. So I am not sure how AAP is going to topple Modi Govt in near future. The only party who can do it is Congress with the support of other parties including AAP.
But at the same time, I think the current government is crossing the line in going after opposition parties especially during election times. We need a strong opposition for our democracy. As pointed out by one editorial Modi may be creating his own nemesis by over stepping here like Voldemort created Harry Potter.
It's amazing how much the BJP took advantage of the uneducated Indians and is now turning the largest democracy in the world into the second largest autocracy.
I have some distant family connections there and they tell me that people have no freedom of speech anymore and the only people criticizing the govt are YouTube channels run by those who don't live in the country.
The ruling party in India legalized corruption using brazen moves such as electoral bonds and is now angry that a small party is continuing to get votes. They have been using laws that assume you are guilty and expect you prove otherwise. The PMLA laws are meant to imprison people and is against the concept of natural justice anywhere in the world except in tin pot dictatorships. India is migrating towards becoming a religious dictatorship that doesn't tolerate opposition or dissent.
The current government has a whole slew of stupid decisions to its name. To its credit though, it has managed to brainwash a large section of India's technically educated and financially well off upper classes. It has the media, sports, public spaces, campuses under full control monitored by policies, online trolls, and goons.
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[ 3.1 ms ] story [ 77.1 ms ] thread- He came to power by using India Against Corruption movement which was led by Anna Hazare https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Hazare
- Once capturing power, he kicked out founding member like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumar_Vishwas and his close associates like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yogendra_Yadav and many others & became de-facto leader of this party. (Now his wife seems to chief of this party)
- In this specific case, Indian Investigators summoned him 9 times and he refused their request for meeting and finally he was arrested after court refused to stay any arrest by Investigators
IMHO, he should have corporated with Investigator, rather than trying to keep them at bay.
PS: I used to be huge supporter of him during those time (2011-2014) and even donated small money (my only donation to any political party till now) while he formed the party (which I regret now).
PS2: Interestingly, his mentor Anna Hazare (who stayed away from his political party and doesnt have political ambitions) said "His arrest is a result of his own actions" https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/result-of-his-own-act...
What's more, this case has garnered exceptional attention from international bodies, including the governments of Germany and the United States, as well as the United Nations, which have all expressed concerns in various forms. This level of international interest is peculiar, especially when considering that several other Chief Ministers, such as Hemant Soren, Laloo Yadav, and Jayalalitha, have faced imprisonment for corruption charges without attracting similar global scrutiny. The focus on the Delhi ex-CM raises questions about the selective attention of these international entities.
Moreover, the case has taken a further twist with allegations from the leader of a terrorist organization, accusing the Delhi ex-CM of accepting a substantial bribe in exchange for the release of a notorious terrorist, a claim that highlights a lack of intent or capability to fulfill such a promise. This has turned the situation into a subject of ridicule.
And once they join the BJP, the cases are dropped?
Or if they donate money to BJP, the cases are dropped?
The first one is that it is really fighting corruption but mainly targeting corruption from outside the Ruling party. This sends a message that India is fine with corruption as long as you are in the right party with the right connections.
The second one is that this is not about real corruption but just accusations to take out the opposition which sends a clear message.
I think painting criticism about a corrupted Indian government and judicial system is not anti-indian sentiment for any reasonable person. At this point india is democracy by name only. Much closer to Russia than anything else.
It's also hard to accuse the ruling party of being politically naive; especially considering PM Modi's unbroken winning streak over the past 25 years or so. So, the question arises: why would the current administration take such a seemingly self-destructive step, essentially handing the opposition a narrative of victimhood? It's a thought worth considering.
What anti-India lens ?
> Congress was in power for ~70 years, so imagine the power they wielded against opposition parties.
I know they did. But what is your argument here since Congress was authoritarian BJP has right to be slightly less authoritarian than Congress?
Congress did do that, during the Indira Gandhi Emergency. Forget much on how they jailed the current ruling party's leadership? And in return, they got promptly lambasted for it globally, and signs still remain even today. That doesn't mean that because Congress did it, it's BJP's turn now.
As a nation, we should be moving forward, but BJP seems to be intent on following the Congress playbook, but on a more aggressive scale than Congress could ever conceive. After all, India's first political party still had to show signs of being a democracy, while the descendant of India's first fascist party does not.
More aggressive? Can you show any evidence to support your statement above?
Truth is west welcomes and supports all oligarchs, Warlords, drug lords and corrupt officials from everywhere. It's just a business
- The current central government's conviction rate is 2%. In 98% of cases accused are released.
- The current central government uses ED and other investigation agencies to force other commercial companies to "donate" money through electoral bonds.
- The main accuser in this case donated a huge amount to the central government party and then he became the witness against the Delhi CM. Not only that "Delhi liquor policy case: Accused-turned-approver’s father gets Lok Sabha ticket from BJP ally [1] "
- One of the Delhi Government's ministers Sisodia was arrested one year ago, and he is still in jail and the ED hasn't been able to prove his case.
- 95% of cases filed by the Indian Investigators Agency known as ED are against the opposition party members.
- If the accused opposition party members join the central government party, all cases are dropped against them.
[1] https://scroll.in/latest/1065986/delhi-liquor-policy-case-ac...
This methodology of enforcement goes back decades way before India got independent, inherited from British Indian authorities. It's even more blatant under the current ruling party.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/3/31/india-opposition-pr...
There is no misunderstanding of the situation. ED, CID and SBI (One of the biggest banks in India) turned into the most corrupt organization in the history of India.
BJP and Modi government openly destroyed all the government agencies and made them corrupt.
That's nothing but extortion
> There is no misunderstanding of the situation. ED, CID and SBI (One of the biggest banks in India) turned into the most corrupt organization in the history of India.
One only has to follow the population trends of muslims inside India, and that of non-muslims (especially Hindus) in Pakistan / Bangladesh / Afghanistan to understand the truth. Please do not go about spreading falsehoods when the things I have mentioned above can be checked independently. Please.
I don't also want to go into discussion about this particular problem with India because it will be off topic. But I will just answer that
> So how do you define a minority?
You define that with respect to the demographic of the country/place we are talking about. Tech workers in the US are minority among population, it doesn't matter that they probably not a minority in Silicon Valley.
Ok, if that is your definition of a minority, please elaborate how you are making the leap to call Muslims in India a minority?
I have some distant family connections there and they tell me that people have no freedom of speech anymore and the only people criticizing the govt are YouTube channels run by those who don't live in the country.
What a shame.
The current government has a whole slew of stupid decisions to its name. To its credit though, it has managed to brainwash a large section of India's technically educated and financially well off upper classes. It has the media, sports, public spaces, campuses under full control monitored by policies, online trolls, and goons.