Link from Schneier to the original article from Proton Mail[0]:
"Some European users who download the new Outlook for Windows will encounter a modal with a troubling disclosure about how Microsoft and several hundred third parties process their data:
"The window informs users that Microsoft and those 801 third parties use their data for a number of purposes, including to:
Store and/or access information on the user’s device
Develop and improve products
Personalize ads and content
Measure ads and content
Derive audience insights
Obtain precise geolocation data
Identify users through device scanning"
On my work laptop, I’m a very happy Microsoft user. I’m assuming all shitty Microsoft behavior is turned off via policies, and even if not, it’s only my work mail and data. The apps work very well, Copilot is nice, the software even looks good. No complaints.
On my personal laptop where I cannot get enterprise licenses or preferential treatment, I’m not touching MS stuff even with a loooong stick.
As an enterprise Microsoft customer, you are treated to the same group policies as everyone else, with one difference that you can reduce OS telemetry collection to “Basic”.
There is no way to go radio silent without ring-fencing the OS within the network.
Just don't try and use it with Edge - on my work Ubuntu laptop, the PWA is a steaming pile - locks up, crashes, eats all the CPU - I gave up and just have it as a pinned tab now.
Potentially limiting what the app has access to. A "real" app can see your clipboard, files on your disk, and the content of your browser profile (technically a subset of "files" but worth calling out on its own). A web app can "only" see your interactions with the web app and data in it (which in this case includes all your email, so...).
I see the point concerning the limitations of what a PWA can do, but as here it's a question on snooping on emails... it probably wouldn't make any difference on that matter.
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[ 145 ms ] story [ 709 ms ] thread"Some European users who download the new Outlook for Windows will encounter a modal with a troubling disclosure about how Microsoft and several hundred third parties process their data:
"The window informs users that Microsoft and those 801 third parties use their data for a number of purposes, including to:
also you get to choose your ads layout.[0] https://proton.me/blog/outlook-is-microsofts-new-data-collec...
Its Orwell's 1984 except that you are made to feel free here
I guess this is the issue here. For some, data collection, is just _ironic_. /s
On my personal laptop where I cannot get enterprise licenses or preferential treatment, I’m not touching MS stuff even with a loooong stick.
There is no way to go radio silent without ring-fencing the OS within the network.
Actual article from January
Outlook is Microsoft's new data collection service
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38953618