Ask HN: How do you stay productive after work?
Here is my little back story:
I work from 8-5(or 6), during work I will take a break and scan for a couple good articles on business, technology, etc. I put the web address in an email to myself to read for later (even if I want to read it all now). At the end of work I send myself the email in hopes that when I get home I continue my enthusiasm to read those articles. Sadly my trend hasn't been what I would like it to be, that of staying motivated, reading articles, and writing down my thoughts or ideas. I am productive in a sense that I go workout to stay in shape and cook dinner, but I would like to keep my head down and work on my own ideas.
So I ask, What do you do when you come back from work to keep being productive on personal improvement or projects?
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[ 3.1 ms ] story [ 161 ms ] threadYou have to be disciplined though. On the days where I skip the run to get more coding done I invariably actually don't get more done as I have less energy.
Exercise is so so important.
On the days when I don't switch gears, there would be no way I could do focused work for more than an hour or two.
Honestly, if I ever really wanted to do a computer-based startup, I would leave my 9-5 job and do landscaping or something physical during the day. I don't think it's realistic to ask your body to be in front of a computer for 12 hours a day.
For the last 2 or 3 years working in agencies, you need a lot of extra willpower to get back on the computer after work.
I work best late at night and early in the morning so just try and fit my side projects in around that time, when I'm most productive.
As a result of this I get excited to find some thing interesting out of the above mentioned and start working on my own ideas.
Simple keep following and get updates about people whom consider smart and get to know what they are upto, this pushes you.
I have never asked if I can, but every job I have always read articles I have found. Some companies I have openly told my boss that is what I do and sometimes those articles have not been directly related to my job, yet still this has been thought of as ok.
So my advice is, do it at work, your employer should be pleased that you want to broaden your skill set, it can only benefit them in the end. Just don't do it to a capacity that has a negative impact on your deliverables.
It is slightly cliché but this was recently posted on our internal "social network"... CFO asks "what if we spend our money training our staff and they leave?", CTO replies "what if we don't and they stay?".
So many jobs, especially technical, require constant education, an employer who wants the best employees know and encourage that.
I just can't sleep without commiting some code, or looking for a solution for a problem I am having in my side project, I need to at least search for it.
If I stay too much time ( Girlfriend, family, sports etc..) like 5hrs or + away from my things I start day dreaming about problems I have to solve in periods I am alone but cannot get to a computer, and I feel a urge to get home soon.
Anyway it's my curse... I gotta have side projects otherwise live is meaningless( at least at this time of my life)
It's me and sometimes people get pissed at me but I am like that love me or hate me :D.
P.S: a LIGHT ( not running a 15kms) exercise really helps, it's like your body is ready for the next 24hrs at 9pm.
Downside, no dinner. :)
While I may not be doing to much to build my skill set and repertoire on my personal time, it makes me feel like I'm doing a good job of balancing 'living for today' and 'preparing for tomorrow'.
I used to work 50-55h/w, and get home to do . . . nothing and see my fanstastic ideas TODO list growing and growing.
For some time, I relocated and now have to commute almost 3 hours a day (with 2 hours of train). Now I work only 45h/w, but still have less time at home than before .
Getting home at 8pm, I have to be really efficient to get things done at home (chores, washing machines, cooking) and spend some time with my girlfriend.
This showed me that I had to be as much efficient as possible during those 3 hours, not to literally lose my life.
I use the train time to code as much as possible on pet projects and my TODO list is melting down. I use the bus and walk time to read articles saved on my phone using Paper/Instagram.
This to say that I think that necessity can make you more productive. You don't have to start commuting :p, but perhaps put yourself in a close environement for some time a day could be good practice.
This is true with just about anything. Most of the time exercise doesn't seem fun, but you get into it.
It's much easier to be a consumer than a producer. Avoid consumption and just produce. You will gain far more slogging through it yourself than reading about someone slogging through it.
Anyway I read at work and at home, but I have trouble working on my own stuff sometimes.
Reading increases my ability to concentrate for long periods of time (yes, really), gives me topics for discussion, etc., which apply to many areas of my life, including those related to actual production. Am I being unproductive when I, for instance, learn Scala without the intent of ever releasing the practice code that I've made?
As for the articles you've emailed yourself, I find it quite often the case that I no longer have enthusiasm a few hours later to read something that seemed interesting at first glance. The best solution there is not to read it and find something better.
I also find that it helps to schedule a block of time for a particular project. For example, I'm typesetting a book for some friends of mine. On my calendar for yesterday evening was to put the chicken on to roast and then typeset while it roasted until other friends came over for dinner at 7. The broccoli and sweet potatos required some time, but not much focused attention, so I could keep the state of the typesetting in my head while I did prep work and then go back to it when things were cooking.
You also may be using up your capacity for certain kinds of thought (e.g., programming and mathematics) at work. Try a project that uses a different part of your brain, such as drawing or writing fiction.
Since I've started using a tool to plan my activities in a weekly, and also in a daily, basis, I've seen my productivity boost. I have separate task lists for my day job, my side projects, and also personal stuff. I use Trello, and Google Calendar for tasks that have a clear deadline, meetings, or appointments.
It feels good to tick the "Done" box.
Also, I use a tool to track where I spend my time, so that I try to improve my "time invested on productive activities" per week. I use Rescue Time for that.
Timing of my caffeine is also critical. I usually try to have caffeine (2 shot Americano) in the morning and something towards the end of my work day around 3, maybe a single Americano or some sugar free energy drink. Then by the time I workout and get home I have a nice, sustainable stream of energy and can focus. I run into problems with caffeine if I have it too close to the time I really need to work. I get jittery and can't focus.
I also don't put too much pressure on myself. Some days I'll feel like working and get a lot accomplished. Other days I don't, or can't be productive later in the day, that's just life. No reason to beat myself up over it.
I used to drink very strong coffee first thing in the morning (probably equivalent 3-4 shots of espresso), be highly productive until mid-morning, crash, have lunch, then do it again in the afternoon.
This cycle was terrible and eventually I broke it by reducing caffeine. Now I drink green tea 3-4 times a day - a light boost without any of the accompanied cratering. Takes at least a month to get used to, though.
1. Have multiple projects on the go at once.
I've found that building multiple things at once enables me to best make use of my available time and resources (such as the equipment/components I have and spare money). One of the projects will usually have some portion that I can spend time on, or research, or buy something for. This is especially true of the researching part.
Depending on my mood I will either (a) not work on the projects at all since there are plenty of other valuable things to do (such as cooking, interacting with people, exercising) or (b) pick from the available choices the one that I'm most in the mood for (e.g. tonight I'd like to finish that amplifier, or tonight I need to read up on X).
2. Don't worry about when they get completed.
This has made me achieve more not less. The more I worried I wasn't completing things the more I stressed myself out and set unrealistic deadlines and then missed them and got upset. Going slow has helped.
3. Pick work that fits in the available time.
I might have an entire evening free, or I might have 20 minutes. There's usually something from the multiple projects that will fit in that available time.
For example, when I worked on my high-altitude balloon project GAGA-1(2) it took me a 9 months of grabbing an hour here, an evening there. The result was fantastic and I don't feel bad about it having taken 9 months instead of a month of total cramming.
(1) http://jgc.org/labs.html (2) http://blog.jgc.org/2011/04/gaga-1-flight.html
Did you had a way to check the air traffic?
If its not too personal, can you tell us how you manage your schedule and how it looks.
- Clean up the house first, having a clean space and already putting in some work makes me more focused and productive.
- Go for a +20min run. It takes that amount of time for your body to get into the reset mode.
- Take a cold shower, it also helps.
- Eat well, i'd recommend tim ferriss's book "the 4-hour body", it keeps me feeling great which in turn helps me do great work.
- combine some multi-positives into your life. By that I mean, if you are commuting that takes a while, listen to audio books or other material. While you are cooking and have a home gym, combine the two and work out while you cook.
- I have experimented with "binaural beats", they are low sound frequencies that help your brain get into concentration mode, relaxation mode, or even deep sleep mode. I actually think they work.
- 30min naps after lunch help. I find that right after lunch I am basically useless so I use the time for fueling up.
- Get the right kind of sleep, the deep REM sleep. The best sleep requires two REM cycles a night (3.5hr - 4hr chunks). Take some magnesium before bed as well.
- do not drink wine or alcohol until it is wind down time at night, I find that this kills my focused energy.
I've been most successful doing my side project work in the morning, before I leave for my "real job."
I recommend getting up 2.5 hours before you have to leave for work. Take that first half hour to shower, make coffee, and get set up to work on your side project.
Do not start web browsing. Just go to your to-do list and start working on one items.
Getting up early will only be difficult for maybe a week or two, then you'll get used to it.
If you're still interested in doing "work" in the evening, use that time to jot down some ideas in evernote and plan for the next morning. Don't force it.
Wash, rinse and repeat, and suddenly you're two times as productive. :)