The assertion by richrichie was that "In fact .. (more people in UK are visited by the police for social statements than people in Russia)"
The response from vedmed concerned reported visits from police which can easily vary from actual visits from police given one country is better known than the other for not reporting police actions, and in any case cited no source for the claimed "reports" of arrest.
You did in fact refer to a user as "Sweaty" .. why and whether that was meant to land as an insult isn't clear - something you might want to work on.
> “Reporting” on Russia by the likes of BBC is just war propaganda now.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Please site your evidence the BBC is broadcasting war propaganda. Both BBC and Al Jazeera have been quite impartial and to their credit, getting news out of Russia isn't easy.
> For a fact, more people in the UK get visits from the police over social media posts than they do in Russia.
I suspect that is because Russian police have far more pressing matters to deal with than capturing escaped swans and intervening between members of the underclass sending each other threats on farsebook!
> It is noteworthy that the article of the Administrative Offenses Code (KoAP) on discrediting [army] was most actively applied in 2022: that year, courts reviewed 5,662 protocols and fined 4,440 people a total of 151.3 million rubles. [1.7 mil USD]
> Last year, the number of protocols almost halved to 3,053, as did the number of those punished — only 2,361 people were held accountable, and the total amount of fines imposed was 76.6 million rubles. [858,721 USD]
> The number of people convicted for spreading knowingly false information about the activities of the armed forces (Article 207.3 of the Criminal Code) increased from 14 to 65 (almost fivefold) last year. Of these, 30 people were sentenced to imprisonment: most often, sentences under this article ranged from five to eight years, but two sentences fell into the category of eight to ten years. For comparison: in 2022, only two of the 14 people convicted for fakes received actual imprisonment, with the harshest sentence falling into the "5 to 8 years" category.
> The number of people convicted for justifying terrorism continues to grow: from 318 in 2022 to 345 in 2023. However, the number of sentences for public calls for violent change of the constitutional order in the media or on the internet has decreased from 334 to 281. [...]
It's nice always to have a theory that tries to explain the complex world around us. In my view, it's better to have a false theory than no theory. So, keep theorizing - it's science!
Why is this on HN when it's clearly political in nature and contains suspected propaganda (let's not argue about this one)?
Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.
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[ 1.9 ms ] story [ 101 ms ] threadSo .. there's no town called Ivanovo a four-hour drive from Moscow ?
No George Orwell Library there?
No such people as Dmitry Silin or Alexandra Karaseva?
Interesting.
> the tiny library offers a selection of books on dystopian worlds and the dangers of totalitarianism.
Obviously We by Yevgeny Zamyatin and Yawning Heights by Alexander Zinoviev .. any other works by Russian authors you think might be featured there?
> For a fact, more people in the UK get visits from the police over social media posts than they do in Russia.
Any sources for this 'fact'?
Your claim as "richrichie" was that In fact.
Unless you're now claiming that Russia is open about police visits.
As for "Sweaty", who are you, Prince Andrew the 2nd?
Let me guess, you're from the UK?
Furthermore, unless I've claimed something, don't attribute me as claiming it. Sound fair, sweaty?
The assertion by richrichie was that "In fact .. (more people in UK are visited by the police for social statements than people in Russia)"
The response from vedmed concerned reported visits from police which can easily vary from actual visits from police given one country is better known than the other for not reporting police actions, and in any case cited no source for the claimed "reports" of arrest.
You did in fact refer to a user as "Sweaty" .. why and whether that was meant to land as an insult isn't clear - something you might want to work on.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Please site your evidence the BBC is broadcasting war propaganda. Both BBC and Al Jazeera have been quite impartial and to their credit, getting news out of Russia isn't easy.
> For a fact, more people in the UK get visits from the police over social media posts than they do in Russia.
I suspect that is because Russian police have far more pressing matters to deal with than capturing escaped swans and intervening between members of the underclass sending each other threats on farsebook!
Good Lord!
Comparing the BBC to Russia Today is a false equivalent (and troll bait!) as I'm sure you perfectly know.
Many in the world regard BBC worse than Russia Today. It is fondly referred to as British Bullshitting Corp.
> It is noteworthy that the article of the Administrative Offenses Code (KoAP) on discrediting [army] was most actively applied in 2022: that year, courts reviewed 5,662 protocols and fined 4,440 people a total of 151.3 million rubles. [1.7 mil USD]
> Last year, the number of protocols almost halved to 3,053, as did the number of those punished — only 2,361 people were held accountable, and the total amount of fines imposed was 76.6 million rubles. [858,721 USD]
> The number of people convicted for spreading knowingly false information about the activities of the armed forces (Article 207.3 of the Criminal Code) increased from 14 to 65 (almost fivefold) last year. Of these, 30 people were sentenced to imprisonment: most often, sentences under this article ranged from five to eight years, but two sentences fell into the category of eight to ten years. For comparison: in 2022, only two of the 14 people convicted for fakes received actual imprisonment, with the harshest sentence falling into the "5 to 8 years" category.
> The number of people convicted for justifying terrorism continues to grow: from 318 in 2022 to 345 in 2023. However, the number of sentences for public calls for violent change of the constitutional order in the media or on the internet has decreased from 334 to 281. [...]
Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.