i know the reason. they sometimes want to show the investors that we are hiring and we need money. they show the money being spent but they save for themselves. i have a friend who is an HR and he is my source on it.
This is one of those situations where naming and shaming is not only acceptable, but a moral obligation. I especially would want to know which hiring managers are among those 7 out of 10 who believe fake listings to be morally acceptable, such that I and others can save myself the time and effort of going through a pointless application process.
Having seen this up close & personal at a Fortune 500
The “fake postings” were real requests from hiring managers, but by preserving an incompetent recruiting process leadership could say “help is coming” even though no one was responding to applicants.
Got so bad entire teams were actually just one hiring manager trying to do it all.
I regularly see positions near to my position (France, sometimes in villages!), and when I apply I receive from 8 to 12 minutes after an email that says "Sorry but your resume is not relevant"... except that my resume has *exactly* all the requirements.
When I talked to my friends about this they tries to apply too and... same thing: 8 to 12 minutes for certain positions, they have been rejected with the exact same response.
You probably don't want to work there anyway. Any company using High School GPA and extracurriculars as a hiring criterion for senior roles, is, in my opinion, not a serious organization.
I applied to one of those positions at Canonical. Their hiring process is so bad, I noped out. No wonder they have open positions all the time, since serious engineers are not going to put up with those shenanigans.
What does my high school GPA and traits have to do with my work as a senior kernel engineer? It reeks of cliques and I want nothing to do with it.
It happens. A major landmark, let's say leap forward in my career - I applied to a job at (to keep it anonymous) let's say a research center in a scientific field that is maybe top #1 or #2 depending on whom you ask in that area. Swiftly rejected.
Randomly, maybe 6 months later, a very exasperated PI from the same institution contacted me directly. She'd fished through the HR system, nobody good was sent through, she'd found me, went in for an interview. It all played out beautifully. Great team, one of the best jobs I've ever had, lifelong mentor & supporter & vice versa.
I think the question is who is the guy calling out irrelevant resumes, and are they qualified for it.
In 2008, while working for a staffing company during the economic downturn, I observed a controversial practice. The company posted job listings that were known to be highly unlikely to result in actual placements. The primary objective was to engage candidate references, turning these interactions into sales opportunities. While I viewed this as potentially wasting candidates' time and straining their professional relationships, the company justified it as a way to maintain a network for future hiring needs. They believed that keeping the system active at full capacity would ensure readiness when the job market rebounded, transforming these difficult-to-fill positions into real opportunities. This experience has led me to always insist on providing references only after a technical interview, a practice that has served me well.
This is one of those things I suspect should probably be made illegal, just like fake reviews are. There is no benefit to society for companies being allowed to post fake job listings, and an awful lot of downsides to both jobseekers (wasted time and effort for a job they'll never get) and services hosting the jobs (makes their listings useless for users).
And while I hear that sometimes it's for 'compliance' reasons (can't hire an internal candidate without listing the job publicly), there should be better laws there too. It's blatantly exploiting a loophole that just about everyone would say goes against the spirit of the law/guidelines and simply shouldn't be allowed. Either jobs can't be listed if a candidate has already been chosen internally, or that companies are required to show equal consideration to both internal and external candidates.
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[ 2.3 ms ] story [ 56.7 ms ] threadThe “fake postings” were real requests from hiring managers, but by preserving an incompetent recruiting process leadership could say “help is coming” even though no one was responding to applicants.
Got so bad entire teams were actually just one hiring manager trying to do it all.
After politely reaching out to someone working for them, who confirmed that the role was closed many months ago.
I regularly see positions near to my position (France, sometimes in villages!), and when I apply I receive from 8 to 12 minutes after an email that says "Sorry but your resume is not relevant"... except that my resume has *exactly* all the requirements.
When I talked to my friends about this they tries to apply too and... same thing: 8 to 12 minutes for certain positions, they have been rejected with the exact same response.
What does my high school GPA and traits have to do with my work as a senior kernel engineer? It reeks of cliques and I want nothing to do with it.
I think the question is who is the guy calling out irrelevant resumes, and are they qualified for it.
And while I hear that sometimes it's for 'compliance' reasons (can't hire an internal candidate without listing the job publicly), there should be better laws there too. It's blatantly exploiting a loophole that just about everyone would say goes against the spirit of the law/guidelines and simply shouldn't be allowed. Either jobs can't be listed if a candidate has already been chosen internally, or that companies are required to show equal consideration to both internal and external candidates.